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Liberal writer finally realizes gun control won't solve the problem

Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
30036 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:50 pm
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Before I started researching gun deaths, gun-control policy used to frustrate me. I wished the National Rifle Association would stop blocking common-sense gun-control reforms such as banning assault weapons, restricting silencers, shrinking magazine sizes and all the other measures that could make guns less deadly.

Then, my colleagues and I at FiveThirtyEight spent three months analyzing all 33,000 lives ended by guns each year in the United States, and I wound up frustrated in a whole new way. We looked at what interventions might have saved those people, and the case for the policies I’d lobbied for crumbled when I examined the evidence.

I researched the strictly tightened gun laws in Britain and Australia and concluded that they didn’t prove much about what America’s policy should be. Neither nation experienced drops in mass shootings or other gun related-crime that could be attributed to their buybacks and bans. And in both Australia and Britain, the gun restrictions had an ambiguous effect on other gun-related crimes or deaths.


When I looked at the other oft-praised policies, I found out that no gun owner walks into the store to buy an “assault weapon.” It’s an invented classification that includes any semi-automatic that has two or more features, such as a bayonet mount, a folding stock or a pistol grip. But guns are modular, and any hobbyist can easily add these features at home, just as if they were snapping together Legos.

As for silencers — they deserve that name only in movies, where they reduce gunfire to a soft puick puick. In real life, silencers limit hearing damage for shooters but don’t make gunfire dangerously quiet. Magazine limits were a little more promising, but a practiced shooter could still change magazines so fast as to make the limit meaningless.

As my co-workers and I kept looking at the data, it seemed less and less clear that one broad gun-control restriction could make a big difference. Two-thirds of gun deaths in the United States every year are suicides.

However, the next-largest set of gun deaths — 1 in 5 — were young men aged 15 to 34, killed in homicides. These men were most likely to die at the hands of other young men, often related to gang loyalties or other street violence. And the last notable group of similar deaths was the 1,700 women murdered per year, usually as the result of domestic violence. Far more people were killed in these ways than in mass-shooting incidents, but few of the popularly floated policies were tailored to serve them.

By the time we published our project, I didn’t believe in many of the interventions I’d heard politicians tout. I was still anti-gun, at least from the point of view of most gun owners, and I don’t want a gun in my home, as I think the risk outweighs the benefits. But I can’t endorse policies whose only selling point is that gun owners hate them. Policies that often seem as if they were drafted by people who have encountered guns only as a figure in a briefing book or an image on the news.

We save lives by focusing on a range of tactics to protect the different kinds of potential victims and reforming potential killers, not from sweeping bans focused on the guns themselves.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117474 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:51 pm to
Her career is over.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45871 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:54 pm to
The comments went about like I thought they would.

Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2984 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:56 pm to
But the Left tells me they LOVE science and facts!!
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56143 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Her career is over.


It is at 538

quote:

Leah Libresco is a statistician and former newswriter at FiveThirtyEight


Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127333 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:58 pm to
Congrats to the writer on doing the independent research and arriving at their own conclusions, even if it goes against their previously held beliefs.

Well done.

Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8521 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:58 pm to
She's about to get Seth Riched
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127333 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Leah Libresco
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90324 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:59 pm to
Refreshing.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77860 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Her career is over.


She has nowhere to go but up.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59112 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:02 pm to
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Instead, I found the most hope in more narrowly tailored interventions. Potential suicide victims, women menaced by their abusive partners and kids swept up in street vendettas are all in danger from guns, but they each require different protections.


Older men, who make up the largest share of gun suicides, need better access to people who could care for them and get them help. Women endangered by specific men need to be prioritized by police, who can enforce restraining orders prohibiting these men from buying and owning guns. Younger men at risk of violence need to be identified before they take a life or lose theirs and to be connected to mentors who can help them de-escalate conflicts.


Even the most data-driven practices, such as New Orleans’ plan to identify gang members for intervention based on previous arrests and weapons seizures, wind up more personal than most policies floated. The young men at risk can be identified by an algorithm, but they have to be disarmed one by one, personally — not en masse as though they were all interchangeable. A reduction in gun deaths is most likely to come from finding smaller chances for victories and expanding those solutions as much as possible. We save lives by focusing on a range of tactics to protect the different kinds of potential victims and reforming potential killers, not from sweeping bans focused on the guns themselves.


Imagine that... actual research instead of mindless regurgitation leads to common sense ideas. Anti-firearms folks won't like this simply because it flies in the face of their simplistic view that prohibitive laws will magically fix the problem.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
15059 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:05 pm to
Devastating critique.

Actually bookmarked that article.

It's beautiful when data and reason reveal truth.


Thanks for posting.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56143 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:11 pm to
Why oh why do they all look alike?
Posted by americanrealism
Smoking an 8th in the multiverse
Member since Nov 2012
1515 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:16 pm to
I'll admit I'm pretty liberal but I agree that more gun legislation or buybacks won't put this genie back in the bottle. It's more of a cultural issue IMO, and there is no easy solution for that. In a sense I agree with O'Reilly when he said that this is simply the price we pay for living in a free society.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77860 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:17 pm to
I commend your honesty.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:37 pm to
Very nice rack.
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