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Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:47 pm to FT
quote:
You basically just can't have a fully automatic weapon.
Yes, you can. Class III weapon.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:48 pm to Lakeboy7
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You mean the military that's been at war for what, 12 years? We have a lot of hands on experience. Or do you honestly believe the military would let you take what they have vested: pay and benefits, retirement, lifetime medical benefits. You are not just walking up to DC armed in a mob, people will be shooting at you.
You are completely out of your depth discussing this scenario.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:05 pm to LongueCarabine
What if your gun is stolen from your residence and goes either unnoticed by the owner or fails to report it acs stolen. The gun then is involved in a crime that results in the death of an innocent person. Does your right to own that gun supercede the victims right to life?
If guns keep you safe, why isn't America the safest place on earth?
In a case of infidelity in a marriage. Husband purchases a gun and finds out he was right anf shoots his wife's lover and kills him. How long does it take for him to realize divorce would have been the better option instead of purchading a gun. How many people who have never committed s crime now sit behind bars thinking " I wish I would have never bought that gun." I say a lot how about you?
If guns keep you safe, why isn't America the safest place on earth?
In a case of infidelity in a marriage. Husband purchases a gun and finds out he was right anf shoots his wife's lover and kills him. How long does it take for him to realize divorce would have been the better option instead of purchading a gun. How many people who have never committed s crime now sit behind bars thinking " I wish I would have never bought that gun." I say a lot how about you?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:13 pm to Douglas Green
quote:Logic fails you dude. Stick to the OT, you're out of your league.
What if your gun is stolen from your residence and goes either unnoticed by the owner or fails to report it acs stolen. The gun then is involved in a crime that results in the death of an innocent person. Does your right to own that gun supercede the victims right to life?
If guns keep you safe, why isn't America the safest place on earth?
In a case of infidelity in a marriage. Husband purchases a gun and finds out he was right anf shoots his wife's lover and kills him. How long does it take for him to realize divorce would have been the better option instead of purchading a gun. How many people who have never committed s crime now sit behind bars thinking " I wish I would have never bought that gun." I say a lot how about you?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:55 pm to tysonslefthook
quote:
Our government could not withstand a rebellion by only 1% of the population with out drastic measures on a Stalin like scale and a long time to prepare.
Meh, I doubt that one percent would be unified.
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That would be a rebel opposition of 3.1 million members. Our government would cease to exist within a week.
Not even close.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:08 pm to Douglas Green
George Fournet, owner of The Post Exchange in Youngsville, defended his life and property with lethal force by exercising his Second Amendment rights this past weekend.
One robber dead, the other injured after attempting to run over him in a stolen car as they were fleeing the scene. They were leaving after burgularizing his store.
What fable do you want to tell about him?
One robber dead, the other injured after attempting to run over him in a stolen car as they were fleeing the scene. They were leaving after burgularizing his store.
What fable do you want to tell about him?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:26 am to reverendotis
Long thread. Supporter of the 2nd amendment and gun owner here, but where is this liberal outrage?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 4:20 am to Asgard Device
These discussions never seem to address the fact that the governmental agencies and military are highly organized and those that would rise up against them are not. Even if many members of those military units and law agencies refuse to participate there will still be enough that do to thwart a civilian revolt simply because of communication and cohesiveness that does not exist on the civilian level. The poster that stated earlier that voting was our best means of controlling the government was absolutely correct. The poster that stated the often used come and get them fails to realize that if it comes to that then they will and it won't take till lunch to get done what they came to do.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:27 am to reverendotis
Where I live police answer burglar alarms. Since according to you I must be an idiot because I don't believe everyone has the right to own a gun. Louisiana either attempted or did PASS A LAW that convicted felons had the right to buy a firearm. I believe I heard REPUBLICAN GOVRNOR BOBBY JINDL signed it into law. I heard in Texas you can carry a concealed weapon into a bar. Let's think about this men/women/alcohol/ infidelity and of course let the drunk jealous person the rigjt to walk around an entertainment establishment ready to make his point. In all fairness They did say the waitress or bartender who may consider someone to be intoxicated the right to take there fire arm from them. Wow that seems logical I guess to you but it sounds to me like freaking insanity.
In Georgia you now have the right to carry concealed guns into townhall meetings( Brilliant).
In Georgia a police officer during a traffic stop cannot ask whether you have a license for the weapon they found or seen during stop. NRA says that is infringing on that gun owners rights or maybe yours if he stole it from your house.
I would hate to live in a paranoid dillusional world that you think exist. Must be really frightening to feel like I need assault rifles and endless amounts of ammunition to be safe. I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me.
The link put up about the man shooting 2 teenage robbers that tried to run him over. I guess your logical thought process is that automobiles can kill in the hands of wrong people. I would say you are right they can but someone in an automobile can't drive into a movie theater and kill and mame 20 or 30 people ,
Again where I live police are first responders to buglar alarms and all of my merchandise would be insured against theft. So I don't see why I would need to take the law into my own hands.
I do know of a person who is serving 20 years in prison for the accidental shooting and death of his fiancee . Thought she was a burglar and was drunk and believed his abundance of guns made him safe. Today he no longer has those beliefs his life has been destroyed in a blink of an eye.
But, you are probably right I don't know enough about the subject to have an opinion. So live in constant fear and paranoia. For me common sense that I have rationalized is better than being a puppet to the NRA's beliefs.
In Georgia you now have the right to carry concealed guns into townhall meetings( Brilliant).
In Georgia a police officer during a traffic stop cannot ask whether you have a license for the weapon they found or seen during stop. NRA says that is infringing on that gun owners rights or maybe yours if he stole it from your house.
I would hate to live in a paranoid dillusional world that you think exist. Must be really frightening to feel like I need assault rifles and endless amounts of ammunition to be safe. I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me.
The link put up about the man shooting 2 teenage robbers that tried to run him over. I guess your logical thought process is that automobiles can kill in the hands of wrong people. I would say you are right they can but someone in an automobile can't drive into a movie theater and kill and mame 20 or 30 people ,
Again where I live police are first responders to buglar alarms and all of my merchandise would be insured against theft. So I don't see why I would need to take the law into my own hands.
I do know of a person who is serving 20 years in prison for the accidental shooting and death of his fiancee . Thought she was a burglar and was drunk and believed his abundance of guns made him safe. Today he no longer has those beliefs his life has been destroyed in a blink of an eye.
But, you are probably right I don't know enough about the subject to have an opinion. So live in constant fear and paranoia. For me common sense that I have rationalized is better than being a puppet to the NRA's beliefs.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:48 am to Douglas Green
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The link put up about the man shooting 2 teenage robbers that tried to run him over. I guess your logical thought process is that automobiles can kill in the hands of wrong people
Absolutely not what I was trying to say at all.
You continue to put forth emotionally charged reasons for why you think gun laws should be more restrictive.
I gave a specific, local example of a man whose ability to defend his life and property rested squarely on him possessing a firearm and bringing it to bear on these two people.
In this situation, you would have been free to sit around in the dark of night, defenseless, waiting for the police to arrive and protect you. No one is telling you that you MUST own a gun.
Likewise, I will remain free to protect my life, the lives of my family and my property with a gun. No amount of irrational fear ginned up by you or anyone else is going to stop me from doing so.
We will never agree on this so I will provide no further argument.
Also - paragraphs, use them.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:12 am to genro
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Because cars don't really defend against an oppressive government
Mark says f&%k you
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:20 am to Douglas Green
Ya, you definitely cannot bring a concealed weapon into a bar in Texas.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 8:21 am
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:01 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Poor gun safety in a number of those photos (fingers on triggers)
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:39 am to udtiger
Saw a film recently about a theoretical power outage in our country. This scenario could in reality happen anywhere at any time. It focused on different individuals and the predicaments they were in - the scary part was those that lived in large cities and didn't have a firearm for protection.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:52 am to tysonslefthook
quote:Most people don't realize this. They think the guy with 20 AR15s and 15 AK47s is overkill...It would be funny if they saw the arsenal of one of those top 1%ers
The top 1% most conservative people in this country have enough quality small arms to rival most nations arsenals.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:57 am to Lakeboy7
quote:Most of the current military have the same beliefs as your average gun holder. They enlisted to protect the constitution.
You mean the military that's been at war for what, 12 years? We have a lot of hands on experience. Or do you honestly believe the military would let you take what they have vested: pay and benefits, retirement, lifetime medical benefits.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:03 am to FT
quote:Why? They are less accurate and you have to reload much more frequently. They should be what anti gun people would want given their logic of smaller magazines = you have to reload more = higher chance of saving 1 life
I have no problem with fully auto weapons.
I do.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:16 am to Douglas Green
quote:
Where I live police answer burglar alarms. Since according to you I must be an idiot because I don't believe everyone has the right to own a gun. Louisiana either attempted or did PASS A LAW that convicted felons had the right to buy a firearm. I believe I heard REPUBLICAN GOVRNOR BOBBY JINDL signed it into law. I heard in Texas you can carry a concealed weapon into a bar. Let's think about this men/women/alcohol/ infidelity and of course let the drunk jealous person the rigjt to walk around an entertainment establishment ready to make his point. In all fairness They did say the waitress or bartender who may consider someone to be intoxicated the right to take there fire arm from them. Wow that seems logical I guess to you but it sounds to me like freaking insanity. In Georgia you now have the right to carry concealed guns into townhall meetings( Brilliant). In Georgia a police officer during a traffic stop cannot ask whether you have a license for the weapon they found or seen during stop. NRA says that is infringing on that gun owners rights or maybe yours if he stole it from your house. I would hate to live in a paranoid dillusional world that you think exist. Must be really frightening to feel like I need assault rifles and endless amounts of ammunition to be safe. I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me. The link put up about the man shooting 2 teenage robbers that tried to run him over. I guess your logical thought process is that automobiles can kill in the hands of wrong people. I would say you are right they can but someone in an automobile can't drive into a movie theater and kill and mame 20 or 30 people , Again where I live police are first responders to buglar alarms and all of my merchandise would be insured against theft. So I don't see why I would need to take the law into my own hands. I do know of a person who is serving 20 years in prison for the accidental shooting and death of his fiancee . Thought she was a burglar and was drunk and believed his abundance of guns made him safe. Today he no longer has those beliefs his life has been destroyed in a blink of an eye. But, you are probably right I don't know enough about the subject to have an opinion. So live in constant fear and paranoia. For me common sense that I have rationalized is better than being a puppet to the NRA's beliefs.
No way you are serious with this gibberish
Sounds like you need to quit reading bullshite chain emails from your grandmother
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:18 am to Douglas Green
quote:I heard this story the other day, I'm wondering what your response would be...
Again where I live police are first responders to buglar alarms and all of my merchandise would be insured against theft. So I don't see why I would need to take the law into my own hands.
A group of "individuals" (Doesn't matter which race, you can decide on your own for this story) break into your house with you, your wife, and daughter there. The burglar alarm goes off. Within 30 seconds, you have a bullet in your head but you are still conscious enough to see 2 of the men rape and then kill your wife and daughter. The criminals make out with about $5,000 worth of stuff in the 5 minutes they were there. You pass out but are later revived at the hospital. Horray, you end up pulling through! Horray, your stolen goods are insured. Oh no, you remember seeing your wife and daughter get raped and killed. If you would have had a gun by your bedside, they may all still be alive today.
What if that happened? My wife works at a hospital as a speech pathologist. She is currently helping a man with his speech where this happened to him. That is a true story (minus the stuff about being insured, I added that bc of your statements).
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 11:24 am
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