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re: Liberal Folks, Should We Tax the Rich?

Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:30 pm to
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The ultra rich have accountants and attorneys who they pay to get out of paying taxes. Also, something like 100 people have more wealth than the bottom 90 percent, to say they pay their “fair share” is a complete joke.


Those are some shitty accountants. They pay 40% of all income tax. How much more would you like for them to contribute?
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10327 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:31 pm to
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The ultra rich have accountants and attorneys who they pay to get out of paying taxes. Also, something like 100 people have more wealth than the bottom 90 percent, to say they pay their “fair share” is a complete joke.


Even if you simplify the tax code and get rid of all tax write offs, the wealthy will still play a ridiculously disproportionate percentage of the overall federal incone tax - even if everybody paid the same tax rate, which they don't. The wealthy pay a substantially higher rate. Now if you want to tax capital gains like earned income, good luck. Watch your 401(k) bottom out and one guess who gets hurt worse in that scenario. Not "The Man", but the little man.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:34 pm to
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Lol 47 percent?
I'm too

.....because the truth is 61% of Americans paid no federal income taxes in 2020

sabo que
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:35 pm to
Ever heard of the EIC & Child Tax Credit?

Those are loopholes that not only zero out their tax burden it fricking "pays" them.

Let's get rid of ALL deductions and credits, individuals pay a tax on gross income and companies pay on gross receipts.

When everyone starts paying income taxes, I "might" start worrying about what wealthy people pay.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3908 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:40 pm to
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Reduce? Hell, just keep it the same every year and the left calls it draconian cuts that starve the poor.


Bingo.

Only in government world is reducing a proposed spending increase from 6% to 2% a "spending cut". Plus, it's considered a "draconian cut".
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:45 pm to
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Bingo.

Only in government world is reducing a proposed spending increase from 6% to 2% a "spending cut". Plus, it's considered a "draconian cut".


Ummm i take it you don't work in corporate finance?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:46 pm to
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sabes que
¿Sabes que? Eres muy callado.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:47 pm to
It sounds like a lot, until one realizes how much wealth is consolidated among the top .1 percent
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Ummm i take it you don't work in corporate finance?
That is an od take. Really odd.
Posted by sabes que
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10156 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:52 pm to
I’m quiet? What are you saying?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:52 pm to
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That’s a lot of word salad to state that you agree that without people corporations didn’t exist and levying taxes on corporations is to levy taxes against the individuals that comprise the corporation.


Plenty of things can't exist without humans but it doesn't make them human....
Posted by delta saint
Member since Aug 2021
180 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:52 pm to
The wealth distribution is getting worse and worse each year. No one wants to hear it, but the people on the bottom aren’t making enough, and the people at the top are making too much.

If taxation is the only way to even that up, so be it. It’s not in anyone’s best interest to have the poor sinking lower and lower. If you go to places like Scandinavia or Western Europe, the people at the bottom have it way better. And there will always be a bottom.

The further down the bottom sinks, the closer we get to a massive upheaval.

ETA: I’m not a liberal. I’m just a realist.
This post was edited on 9/16/21 at 3:53 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:53 pm to
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It sounds like a lot, until one realizes how much wealth is consolidated among the top .1 percent
Yeah? When your peeps target THAT group, we'll talk. Until then, usted no sabes.

There is a reason nearly every one of them are Dems, and it ain't charity.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:54 pm to
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I’m quiet? What are you saying?
61%, dog.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:55 pm to
The Republican party seriously has average people willing to defend million and billionaires to the death. The same people who would consider them a fricking peasant
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:57 pm to
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The Republican party seriously has average people willing to defend million and billionaires to the death.
Democrats nonetheless.
Does American Exceptionalism offend you?
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 4:00 pm to
Who favors taxing the ultra rich more? The left or the right? IYO
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 4:06 pm to
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That is an od take. Really odd.


I do internal operation project calcs and if i reduce your hiring plan for the next 5 years so you can maintain current levels but expand revenue that 100% would count as a cost savings program at a corporation.
This post was edited on 9/16/21 at 4:08 pm
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7837 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 4:06 pm to
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t sounds like a lot, until one realizes how much wealth is consolidated among the top .1 percent


They pay 20% of income taxes.

You’ve got a lot of envy. You can take away all the wealth of the 1% and still not cover the proposed spending bill.

Break open your piggy bank, average folks.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 4:08 pm to
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Who favors taxing the ultra rich more? The left or the right?
The proof is in the pudding. The vast majority of "ultra rich" are DEMOCRATS! You figure it out.
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