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Levin is going off on political corruption concerning China
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:35 pm
I’m almost laughing listening to this BS on his radio show. You’re about 20-30 years late to the party Mark Levin. Now you’re outraged over Mitch McConnell, Hunter Biden and a buncha other politicians and US companies cozying up to a communist country to make the quick buck?
It pisses me off to no fricking end to hear these conservative radio intellectuals suddenly show concern over this China debacle. I remember listening to Rush, Mark Levin, Kudlow and other conservative pundits defending US companies for moving large portions of their manufacturing capacity out of the US for China, Korea, Mexico and other foreign countries to increase their profitability. All of these same conservatives thought it was a great strategy to weaken and destroy unions, who they perceived as being too powerful.
I guess we’re all supposed to be shocked at how this orchestrated strategy to offshore America’s industrial/manufacturing base to China and other countries didn’t work out for the benefit of America in the long run.
It pisses me off to no fricking end to hear these conservative radio intellectuals suddenly show concern over this China debacle. I remember listening to Rush, Mark Levin, Kudlow and other conservative pundits defending US companies for moving large portions of their manufacturing capacity out of the US for China, Korea, Mexico and other foreign countries to increase their profitability. All of these same conservatives thought it was a great strategy to weaken and destroy unions, who they perceived as being too powerful.
I guess we’re all supposed to be shocked at how this orchestrated strategy to offshore America’s industrial/manufacturing base to China and other countries didn’t work out for the benefit of America in the long run.
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:39 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:I believe "corrupt" would more closely describe their perception.
weaken and destroy unions, who they perceived as being too powerful
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:53 pm to NC_Tigah
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I believe "corrupt" would more closely describe their perception.
Corrupt! Too powerful! Doesn’t matter, you don’t modernize China only to have this BS on your front doorstep now. Tell me where is the level of corruption in DC that signed off on all this transfer of high tech industrial/manufacturing technology to China....the level of corruption is massive in comparison to union thugs.
Before the US thought it was good idea to modernize China’s economy they had trouble launching a stable ICBM, now they have MIRV capability thanks to our precision ball bearing technology.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:59 pm to Bass Tiger
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I guess we’re all supposed to be shocked at how this orchestrated strategy to offshore America’s industrial/manufacturing base to China and other countries didn’t work out for the benefit of America in the long run.
What are you talking about?
Conservative talk host have said again and again, we lost manufacturing because ti's not a level playing field in trade...
Trump is simply saying game over...
so what are you tripping about?
McConnell like many of them have been around for far too long, they all have dirt on their hands..
Conservative host have talked for years about term limits
take the good w/ the bad?
time for change...I support the President being tough with China...
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:06 pm to ApexTiger
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What are you talking about? Conservative talk host have said again and again, we lost manufacturing because ti's not a level playing field in trade...
I’m talking 30 years ago a lot of conservatives had no issue out sourcing and moving US industrial/manufacturing production out of the US for cheap production costs (labor and environmental) but now their all in a tizzy. Rush was one of the worst on this BS. I still listen to his show because he’s pretty good at delivering the conservative message.
Hell yes, I’m all for Trump trying to clean up this mess,
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:55 pm to Bass Tiger
I'm fairly certain conservative commentators were yelling about this corruption way back then. Remember Loral Space and the favors done for them and China by the Clintons? Remember Charlie Trie? Remember Gore couldn't remember getting campaign contributions at the Buddhist Temple because he drank too much tea and had to take a leak? Remember the book The China Threat by Bill Gertz?
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:25 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:I don't recall Rush supporting Clinton's dealings with the Chi-comms. I could be wrong, though.
Rush was one of the worst on this BS.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 9:34 pm to Bass Tiger
I was thinking today that Trump has completely changed how China is perceived in this country. I think he brought a lot of attention to a big problem that most people were sleeping on.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:45 am to Bass Tiger
Democrat policies forced the manufacturing migration...
Posted on 8/3/19 at 8:53 am to Bass Tiger
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Before the US thought it was good idea to modernize China’s economy they had trouble launching a stable ICBM, now they have MIRV capability thanks to our precision ball bearing technology.
By using the term "US thought", you meant "Bill Clinton", correct?
He was the traitor who sent secret technology to China. Of course its a been Government "Deep State" policy for decades to allow China to share our technology.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 9:03 am to Gus007
quote:WTO was the mistake. China was allowed entry based on unsecured promises. Though China's path to the WTO, like NoKo's path to Nukes, was largely Clinton's doing, China actually joined under W's administration.
you meant "Bill Clinton", correct?
Posted on 8/3/19 at 10:59 am to Bass Tiger
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I’m talking 30 years ago a lot of conservatives had no issue out sourcing and moving US industrial/manufacturing production out of the US for cheap production costs (labor and environmental) but now their all in a tizzy. Rush was one of the worst on this BS.
I am not a student of international financing - but I do not recall Rush (or any other conservative voice) advocating for 'moving industrial/manufacturing out of the US for cheap . . . "
Of course I have only had time to spend a lot of time listening during working hours for the past 7 years.
I recall Ross Perot making a big deal out of the "giant whooooosing sound" of jobs leaving for Mexico - and that Bush was saying "it's all ok." - that's about it.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 11:01 am
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:10 am to NC_Tigah
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WTO was the mistake. China was allowed entry based on unsecured promises. Though China's path to the WTO, like NoKo's path to Nukes, was largely Clinton's doing, China actually joined under W's administration.
The Swampers (lobbyists, politicians) were obviously lining their pockets with these sweetheart idiotic trade deals that were drafted and signed off on between the US and China. Sure, our 401ks have also benefited but in retrospect would you rather China be 15-20 years behind the US in AI, advanced hypersonic missile technology, targeting, acquisition and telemetry, advanced industrial technologies, etc. or maybe take a few bucks out of our retirement accounts? We didn't do ourselves any favors when the Soviet Union fell either. The US promptly runs over to Russia and helps them off the mat by developing Russian energy production with technology they didn't have. Greed will eventually bite you square in the arse and the US Corporatocracy has proven that fact.
There are ways to coexist with our adversaries but putting them on the same level technologically with the US is not the correct strategy.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 1:38 pm to LSUgusto
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I don't recall Rush supporting Clinton's dealings with the Chi-comms. I could be wrong, though.
Don’t know how old you are but I’ve been listening to Rush since 1989. I can’t say he specifically cheered on moving US manufacturing to China but in general he had no issues with US manufacturing being moved offshore or to Mexico.
Rush despises unions and doesn’t hide that fact and much of his agreement with US companies moving production out of the US was to punish unions. BTW, I’m not a union type person but it’s pretty damn shortsighted for US companies, in a bid to lower their manufacturing cost to cozy up with a country (China) that was our adversary in the Korean and Viet Nam wars. As far as I’m concerned they were and still are our adversary and the US absolutely created this China conundrum over the almighty dollar.
Unfortunately I’m not sure what the long term solution is. I think some of the folks making the decision 30-40 years ago to help China modernize it’s economy believed communism would over time morph into a quasi democratic style of government....that was a huge gamble and now we’re dealing with a very formidable communist Superpower
Posted on 8/3/19 at 1:42 pm to Gus007
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By using the term "US thought", you meant "Bill Clinton", correct? He was the traitor who sent secret technology to China. Of course its a been Government "Deep State" policy for decades to allow China to share our technology.
This ^^^^ I agree with. I’m not going to put all the blame on Slick but he was by far the worst. The problem is many conservatives either didn’t understand the repercussions of this China foolishness or they were getting their pockets lined too.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 1:48 pm to ChineseBandit58
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I recall Ross Perot making a big deal out of the "giant whooooosing sound" of jobs leaving for Mexico - and that Bush was saying "it's all ok." - that's about it.
Ross Perot was one of the few conservatives who warned us about NAFTA. He was right! A lot of the DC Swamp politicians (Dims and Republican) had already made deals to vote on NAFTA after the Corporatocracy lobbyists worked their magic. I watched three businesses in St Joseph Mo close up within 4 years after NAFTA was signed.
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