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re: Let's talk about some marital privilege and class signaling

Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:20 pm to
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oh in terms of our society, black women get the short end of the stick all around

they're seen as the ugliest subset of women (See: OK Cupid data)

they have the least prospects within their own race, especially outside of the upper class. it gets exponentially worse as we go down




Our lily white church had a Black Seminary professor come speak one Sunday about how the hardest couple to match in the world is a black woman to anybody. My wife was aghast but I understood what he was getting at.

His entire point is that if we want to fix race, crime, abortion, or drug issues then we need to get in the business of getting black families married and stable. Hardest thing about that is if you're a Christian educated black female finding a suitable mate.

Some people lost their shite, but I 100% got his point.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 6:21 pm
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:24 pm to
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how the hardest couple to match in the world is a black woman to anybody.


Just think if your lily white preacher would have said that.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 6:25 pm
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:28 pm to
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My husband and I divide tasks. He works and focuses primarily on advancing his career and providing for our family. I maintain the home,care for the kids,focus on our relationship,etc. My attention isn't divided and neither is his. We're focused on our roles. He doesn't miss work because we have a sick kid and it's "his turn". He doesn't have to leave work to pick up the kids. If he is in the middle of something important he knows I've got things covered at home and will not find his need to complete a task as an imposition. This has allowed him to take on responsibilities others could not and his dedication did not go unnoticed. I don't think he would have advanced as quickly if we were dividing duties. I can't imagine doing it any other way


You are doing it the correct way. In the white community the fact that we have so many households with 2 parents working long hours is just as problematic as how many single mothers we have.
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:31 pm to
He would have got White Privileged the eff out of town.

Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:33 pm to
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His entire point is that if we want to fix race, crime, abortion, or drug issues then we need to get in the business of getting black families married and stable.


If anyone needs proof that this is the problem in the black community, and the white man has nothing to do with the current state of it, they just need to look back in time 60-70 years. We were oppressive as shite and actually did work to hold them down but they didn't have anywhere near the issues they have today when we give them advantages. The only difference is now that they are on their own and have chosen how to run their own communities they have decided to not have families, that choice has ruined their community.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:37 pm to
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households with 2 parents working long hours is just as problematic as how many single mothers we have.


I agree they are both problems, I don't agree on scale.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:43 pm to
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If you think single parents get coddled, if you think that the esoteric concept of "nuclear family privilege" is somehow more prevalent and ingrained in our society than a thousand negative stereotypes about deadbeat dads and immature moms, I'm really at a loss as to how communication is possible, because we are not living in the same reality


You're categorizing things into absolutes while whining about slow categorizing the left into a single monolithic group.

Let's look at 4 statements I hope we can all agree on:

Single parent hood has been destigmatized relative to where we were 50 years ago. It still carries stigma, but not nearly as much stigma.

Single parent hood has risen in conjunction with that destigmatization.

The right is not responsible for pushing the destigmatization.



Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:55 pm to
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they submit to a often less high value man just for the sake of being married


High value females don't have to submit to low value men. Perhaps that's part of the life choices selection. As much as I love my husband, I would have never married him if I didn't think our marriage would be equally prosperous and advantageous.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 7:57 pm to
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i mean i somewhat get it. the progs of any intelligence who do this know they are much more advanced than their "lessers" they're discussing. they feel bad for "being mean" to them, because the lower class life is so shitty. also i believe there is a ton of elitism, i.e., "they will never be able to comprehend these concepts on their own"

it's this weird merging of guilt and elitism without the strength to state reality



I like how Melissa Harris Perry ridiculed the idea that you're better off being married. But she's married.

It would be like me going on TV with my 30-inch waistline and saying you can get away with eating McDonalds three times a day, while I go there about three times a year.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:02 pm to
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for many progs, yes (See this thread for one example. i believe my quoted response is early on page 2)

but my comment was about the use of privilege (or similar terminologies), which has negative connotation


There's also discrimination (Obamacare glitch, marriage tax penalty, etc.)
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:10 pm to
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High value females don't have to submit to low value men. Perhaps that's part of the life choices selection. As much as I love my husband, I would have never married him if I didn't think our marriage would be equally prosperous and advantageous.


you're describing what is, now. i was describing what was the case back in the day, when America was supposedly great.

but let's bring together this type of thread with the ones i see on the OT, to the tune of "why would (high-value person) get married?"

we can't have a society where "bedding" women is so looked up to, and simultaneously bemoan those men and women not getting married and having kids at the rate we want.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:10 pm to
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You are doing it the correct way. In the white community the fact that we have so many households with 2 parents working long hours is just as problematic as how many single mothers we have.


Yes!

Kids aren't status symbols but a whole lot of parents treat them as such. It's really sad. Most of my kids' friends say things like "Little Cone, it's so cool that your mom is home and you don't have to go to after school care.","Little Cone, my mom never draws with me." etc. Kids want stuff but need parents.

Posted by Pinecone Repair
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:11 pm to
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High value females don't have to submit to low value men. Perhaps that's part of the life choices selection. As much as I love my husband, I would have never married him if I didn't think our marriage would be equally prosperous and advantageous.


This!
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:19 pm to
Why can't we stigmatize people that make horrible personal decisions that result in easily predictable poor outcomes?

That goes double if these poor decision makers end up on the dole due to their terrible decisions with predictably poor outcomes.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 10:20 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:30 pm to
Again

"High value" people ARE THE ONES GETTING MARRIED

why do you keep ignoring the real issue or the LOWER CLASS rejecting marriage?

You have made multiple posts in this thread that literally ignore the actual discussion
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466336 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:33 pm to
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Why can't we stigmatize people that make horrible personal decisions that result in easily predictable poor outcomes? 

The only way this seems logical is if those people are so unintelligent and hopeless that all decision-making? should be removed
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:33 pm to
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like how Melissa Harris Perry ridiculed the idea that you're better off being married. But she's married.


Or Katy Perry bemoaning walls while living behind them. Most leftists are giant hypocrites.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:09 am to
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This is because the far left actually doesn't have that much influence in America.
yeah that's how a male just won the Connecticut high school state title in the female 100m and 200m

very little influence

or are you going to claim insanity like this isn't representative of the actual far left?
What I'm going to tell you is that if the best example you could come up with was a fricking high school track meet then you just proved my point
Posted by claremontrich
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:18 am to
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Message Let's talk about some marital privilege and class signaling by LSUTigersVCURams quote: I almost married a girl that was super rich. Problem was that she was absolutely historically insane. It was a real shame. You made a bad choice. All women are crazy. Only a few are rich.


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Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:11 am to
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What I'm going to tell you is that if the best example you could come up with was a fricking high school track meet then you just proved my point

You really are that shallow.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 8:12 am
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