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re: Let’s simplify this abortion situation

Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:26 pm to
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Let’s simplify this abortion situation
Anyone who understands what an abortion is, and defends it, is evil.
Meh. I am easily on board with banning 3rd trimester abortions - and it's not often stated, but the US is an extreme outlier on this. Most of Europe doesn't have it.

2nd trimester, I can probably also be on board with banning.

1st? I don't find that nearly as compelling. There's a line somewhere, and I (and nobody else) knows where it is. You will not get me to equate the morning after pill with a 3rd trimester abortion. There simply is a difference in kind.

Also, I would find the "my body, my choice" mantra more convincing if the sorts of women who go around screaming that actually had that perspective in all aspects of political life. But they are clearly more than willing to ban plenty of things with other people's bodies.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24939 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:27 pm to
What if you don't abort them and they invent a better way to abort babies with lasers? You just killed millions of babies. Good job. Baby killer jnethe1 here.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:27 pm to
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If it's not a human being, what is it? A dog? An ape? A palm tree?


Well it looks like a Pokemon for at least a couple of months
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:27 pm to
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perhaps the most evil people on the planet.


I honestly can’t think of anything more evil.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33631 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:29 pm to
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I honestly can’t think of anything more evil.
More evil than what?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13654 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:32 pm to
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Sign me up.

I support abortion and the right to terminate a fetus as it's not a human being yet.




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oklahogjr


You should move to Phoenix or some place really hot to get accustomed...
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:32 pm to
We pretty much share the same view on it.

Ban abortions after the 1st Trimester and make tests/birth control more accessible.

quote:

Also, I would find the "my body, my choice" mantra more convincing if the sorts of women who go around screaming that actually had that perspective in all aspects of political life. But they are clearly more than willing to ban plenty of things with other people's bodies.


I get this, but the "my body my choice" anti vaxxers here are pretty much the same thing in opposite land when it comes to abortion so it evens out
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:34 pm to
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Meh. I am easily on board with banning 3rd trimester abortions - and it's not often stated, but the US is an extreme outlier on this. Most of Europe doesn't have it. 2nd trimester, I can probably also be on board with banning.


It happens more than you think.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
1344 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:35 pm to
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I support abortion and the right to terminate a fetus as it's not a human being yet.


There is no science backing this and you know it. That is some bullshite libs came up with because they knew arguing that it should be okay to kill your unborn baby just because you don't want it is morally indefensible.

That is also how I know that you know abortion is wrong. Because if it wasn't, then you wouldn't need to make up bullshite reasons to justify it as okay.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:35 pm to
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I get this, but the "my body my choice" anti vaxxers here are pretty much the same thing in opposite land when it comes to abortion so it evens out


Except the fact that in one instance a life is being terminated.
Posted by RobertFootball
SC
Member since Mar 2021
1337 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:35 pm to
Your science argument went out the window once your side claimed men can get pregnant.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:36 pm to
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That is also how I know that you know abortion is wrong. Because if it wasn't, then you wouldn't need to make up bullshite reasons to justify it as okay.


Boom
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:38 pm to
"snuffed out" maybe. But if you use a rubber you are "snuffing out" a potential life too. Maybe we ban those next.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:46 pm to
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"snuffed out" maybe. But if you use a rubber you are "snuffing out" a potential life too. Maybe we ban those next.


Potential is the key word here.

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"snuffed out" maybe.

So if someone killed your wife, you would call it snuffed out?
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 2:49 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Your science argument went out the window once your side claimed men can get pregnant.
I never cease to be amazed by the ability of some people to look at someone who disagrees with them on a specific issue (here, abortion) and to impute to that person every crazy position on every OTHER issue (here, the trans-pregnancy thing) ever taken by some random person who holds the same view on that first issue.

It is psychotic.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:52 pm to
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So if someone killed your wife, you would call it snuffed out?


Well she has been born, has a heartbeat, and has brain function. So no.
Posted by BABAR
Huntsville
Member since May 2013
331 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:54 pm to
Typical middle age conservative white male: I strongly oppose abortion, until my mistress or teen aged daughter gets pregnant
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:54 pm to
Either all life is sacred, or none of it is.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41758 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:55 pm to
Sounds good enough to me. It’s not really any more complex than that.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:55 pm to
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Either all life is sacred, or none of it is.



Sure, and we think it begins at different points
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