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Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:A lot of mind-readers on board today, eh?
You clearly don't know much about me or where I'm from
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:06 pm to TrueTiger
That is only a slight oversimplification. Think about that.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:07 pm to Gaggle
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you could've spent time learning how to use a plow. Some people did
Perfect example. People hundreds of years ago did. How many plows do you see lying around for humans to learn how to use during the apocalypse? The tech is dead and it will take time for us to get to the point before that tech existed when we build society back.
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You have had access to your father's woodworking technology
Sure and his best saws require electricity.
Plus, where would I get quality milled wood? See many pre-Industrial wood mills around lately? Have the blueprints handy?
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:08 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:A lot of mind readers and people who seem to be fetishizing a collapsed society where they get to shoot people (including innocent children)
A lot of mind-readers on board today, eh?
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:08 pm to Mo Jeaux
Want to, meh.
Could I, absolutely. I'm damn sure not scared of it.
Could I, absolutely. I'm damn sure not scared of it.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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When Rome collapses Europe didn't recover for 500-750 years for a reason.
That's a great point. The Romans built sewer systems and 1000 years later Europeans were shitting into buckets.
I'm not sure the Middle East has ever recovered from the fall of Alexandria.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:13 pm to JoeHackett
Collapse would be so much worse this time around as our current lifestyle depends on others for its comfort. The electric grid hiccups for more than a week and all hell breaks loose. I am fortunate to already have an off grid location setup but the vast majority do not.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I get it. They envision themselves reverting to more genteel times and become a self-sustaining subsistence living. It's pretty comical. Or worse some kind of one-man army protecting their home for invaders.
A lot of mind readers and people who seem to be fetishizing a collapsed society where they get to shoot people (including innocent children)
That never happened in a place like Argentina (nor bosina, nor Venezuela), it sure as hell ain't happening here. The book dispels those fantasies very quickly.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
To get the lights on? weeks or a month.
Monetary System? people with physical gold and silver will be in the catbirds seat. Once the grid comes back up Crypto will fill the void.
With no regulation to adhere to, economic recovery speed will be blazing.
Monetary System? people with physical gold and silver will be in the catbirds seat. Once the grid comes back up Crypto will fill the void.
With no regulation to adhere to, economic recovery speed will be blazing.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:15 pm to TigerSprings
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To get the lights on? weeks or a month.
Monetary System? people with physical gold and silver will be in the catbirds seat. Once the grid comes back up Crypto will fill the void.
With no regulation to adhere to, economic recovery speed will be blazing.
Bless your heart.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:17 pm to bayoudude
quote:Isn't any kind of guarantee. When no one has any power, or food, guess where they are all going. The odds of you defending yourself against 20-100 people is... slim. Some the cruelest horrors in Argentina happened to people in the rural areas. There were no neighbors to help them.
I am fortunate to already have an off grid location setup but the vast majority do not.
Anyone who isn't scared of this... is a fool.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:19 pm to TigerSprings
quote:In a EOTWAWKI scenario, I'm not taking gold. I want food and clean water.
Monetary System? people with physical gold and silver will be in the catbirds seat.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:19 pm to Taxing Authority
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They envision themselves reverting to more genteel times and become a self-sustaining subsistence living. It's pretty comical. Or worse some kind of one-man army protecting their home for invaders.
I think it's much more the latter.
I blame Hank Jr.
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That never happened in a place like Argentina (nor bosina, nor Venezuela), it sure as hell ain't happening here. The book dispels those fantasies very quickly.
Just remember. The same people envisioning the paths you laid out also love the "we are being hunted" meme. A lot of these guys also live in states in the Southeast or TX (areas with high violent crime during the civilized times). Somehow they're able to reconcile their current view of violent criminals and, yet, imagine the apocalypse to be fun or ideal.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Perfect example. People hundreds of years ago did. How many plows do you see lying around for humans to learn how to use during the apocalypse? The tech is dead and it will take time for us to get to the point before that tech existed when we build society back
Once again, dramatize much? We wont go back to plowing with horses. We definitely will drag those old open cab tractors that are completely devoid of electronics and put them back to work.
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Sure and his best saws require electricity
We will never go back to the days without electricity. It wont be as cheap, or as available as it is today, but it wont go completely away.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:22 pm to Taxing Authority
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Isn't any kind of guarantee. When no one has any power, or food, guess where they are all going. The odds of you defending yourself against 20-100 people is... slim.
We have our own hydro and biomass facilities, tons of fish and game.
After the initial die out, would be fine. There are no roads in, so no influx of people.
I could survive infinitely alone on one of the islands here.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I blame Hank Jr.
quote:Meh. I'm not a fan of mind-reading them any more than them mind-reading you. That's a pretty broad generalization.
Just remember. The same people envisioning the paths you laid out also love the "we are being hunted" meme. A lot of these guys also live in states in the Southeast or TX (areas with high violent crime during the civilized times). Somehow they're able to reconcile their current view of violent criminals and, yet, imagine the apocalypse to be fun or ideal.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:sounds like some people have a jump start
Perfect example. People hundreds of years ago did. How many plows do you see lying around for humans to learn how to use during the apocalypse? The tech is dead and it will take time for us to get to the point before that tech existed when we build society back.
quote:YES :)
See many pre-Industrial wood mills around lately?
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Lots of these guys live in places like Central and realize life has passed them by
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:25 pm to TigerSprings
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Crypto will fill the void
Crypto will be gone the way of the dodo bird. It will take decades before people trust banking like that again.
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