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Lefties, please chime in on the following topic. Maduro purging military of disloyalty
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:17 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:17 am
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I'm told that a leader demanding loyalty out of those in his Administration is an impeachable offense.
Where are we on Maduro purging his own military lefties?
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Politically motivated arrests of soldiers and military personnel in Venezuela reached an all-time high in 2018, according to a report from grassroots Venezuelan site Crónica Uno published Monday. According to the latest figures, 197 members of the military are facing charges on crimes such as incitement to rebellion, treason to the fatherland, and breach of military etiquette, charges meant to target any dissent within the ranks of dictator Nicolás Maduro’s military. The number now surpasses that arrested former Venezuelan dictators Hugo Chávez and Marcos Pérez Jiménez. As part of their effort to guarantee loyalty, the regime recently began purging high-rankings members of the military who they suspect of disloyalty. In March, Maduro issued a presidential decree announcing that 24 soldiers had been demoted or dismissed from the military over their supposed attempts “to damage the Republic by violent means.”
I'm told that a leader demanding loyalty out of those in his Administration is an impeachable offense.
Where are we on Maduro purging his own military lefties?
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:18 am to bamarep
We're educated white people so our socialism will work better.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:19 am to bamarep
Do you not see how a person can have a problem with DJT demanding personal loyalty as well as Maduro doing this?
These two things don’t seem mutually exclusive at all.
These two things don’t seem mutually exclusive at all.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:21 am to boosiebadazz
Ahhhhhh yes.
The Trump exception. I forgot about that while different set of rules thing.
What about when Erdogan faked a coup to purge his dis loyalists? 200 journalists are still in jail to this day.
That's different too I guess.
The Trump exception. I forgot about that while different set of rules thing.
What about when Erdogan faked a coup to purge his dis loyalists? 200 journalists are still in jail to this day.
That's different too I guess.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:22 am to bamarep
Has any one posting here ever held up Maduro as a pillar of successful leadership?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:23 am to bamarep
I’m confused. Erdogan is a piece of shite too. Again, not seeing the distinction you’re trying to make.
I’ve got a problem when strongmen demand personal loyalty wherever they do it. That’s the antithesis to the rule of law.
I’ve got a problem when strongmen demand personal loyalty wherever they do it. That’s the antithesis to the rule of law.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:24 am to bamarep
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facing charges on crimes such as incitement to rebellion, treason to the fatherland, and breach of military etiquette, charges meant to target any dissent within the ranks of dictator Nicolás Maduro’s military
1. Nation where there is history of military coup.
10 years of military dictatorship in Venezuela. The coup to overthrow the dictatorship was led by a military man.
2. If there's a semblance of this in us a, they could be court martialed.
I was informed the first day of rotc officers must stay out of politics.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:26 am to boosiebadazz
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I’ve got a problem when strongmen demand personal loyalty wherever they do it. That’s the antithesis to the rule of law.
Trump is the highest authority in the United States Military. I don’t have a problem with him wanting loyalty from his subordinates. Trump isn’t a dictator like Maduro or Erdogan.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:28 am to bamarep
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Where are we on Maduro purging his own military lefties?
I don’t give a shite about Venezuela.
Thanks for asking.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:30 am to boosiebadazz
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not seeing the distinction you’re trying to make.
Damn boosie, after giving you credit for all the progress you've made. Work with me baw....
It's called hypocrisy.
Dems excoriate Trump for demanding loyalty but other world leaders literally throw disloyalists in jail and they don't say shite about it. Trump suspended a reporters hard pass and they shite the floor, Erdogan threw 200 reporters in jail and you have crickets from the left.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:30 am to boosiebadazz
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Do you not see how a person can have a problem with DJT demanding personal loyalty as well as Maduro doing this?
Trump demands loyalty or else you'll lose your job. Maduro demands loyalty or you'll wind up in prison. There is no comparing the two.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:35 am to bamarep
The point that the OP is trying to make is simply too fricking stupid to wrap one’s brain around it, no matter what angle from which one approaches the question. Then I looked at the name of the poster and understood completely.
An analogy with 11 points of coincidence and one point of divergence is a damn to good analogy. An analogy with six points of coincidence and six points of divergence sometimes be useful. An analogy with one point of coincidence and 11 points of divergence is just fricking stupid. The OP falls into the last category.
An analogy with 11 points of coincidence and one point of divergence is a damn to good analogy. An analogy with six points of coincidence and six points of divergence sometimes be useful. An analogy with one point of coincidence and 11 points of divergence is just fricking stupid. The OP falls into the last category.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 10:44 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:37 am to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:The United States military owes its duty of loyalty to the institutions and constitution of the United States… Not personally to the temporary resident at 1600 Pennsylvania
Trump is the highest authority in the United States Military. I don’t have a problem with him wanting loyalty from his subordinates
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 10:39 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:59 am to boosiebadazz
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I’ve got a problem when strongmen demand personal loyalty wherever they do it.
Trump is demanding loyalty
Amazing how stoopid some are on this board
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:05 am to bamarep
So it’s the silence from those on the left regarding Maduro and Erdogan you have a problem with?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:05 am to bamarep
she sees the point, she plays dumb as part of her defense, they are quick to put down socialist dictators in other countries, and yet they love them some democratic party, as though socialism is okay, so long as its in its infancy.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:12 am to KeyserSoze999
Is Debbie Wasserman Schultz a big enoug Leftist for you?
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I guess she had been bounced before the military purge, but is that really the hill OP is dying on?
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“As a U.S. Representative with one of the largest communities of Venezuelans and Venezuelan-Americans in the United States, I am appalled by the continued abuses of the Maduro government against its citizens. Maduro has defied the Venezuelan constitution by first attempting to reject the more than 1.8 million signatures on recall referendum petitions and then seeking to directly undermine the National Assembly by removing Democratic Unity Roundtable legislators. He has taken these actions while holding 85 political prisoners, including Leopoldo Lopez and Daniel Ceballos.
"But the effects of Maduro’s catastrophic rule don’t stop there. Under his watch, Venezuelans have seen an utter lack of basic medical supplies and pharmaceutical drugs; empty food shelves and sky-rocketing prices for essential items; a climate of violence in Caracas that has led to the highest per capita homicide rate in the world; and public officials’ involvement in corruption and illegal narcotics trafficking.
"I stand in solidarity with the Venezuelan people as they suffer through this heartbreaking crisis, and am proud to introduce this bipartisan resolution with my South Florida colleague Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen to send a clear message to President Maduro and his cronies that oppression, human rights abuse and thwarting democracy is unacceptable and has consequences,” said Rep. Wasserman Schultz.
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I guess she had been bounced before the military purge, but is that really the hill OP is dying on?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:15 am to boosiebadazz
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I’m confused. Erdogan is a piece of shite too. Again, not seeing the distinction you’re trying to make.
I’ve got a problem when strongmen demand personal loyalty wherever they do it. That’s the antithesis to the rule of law.
I’m also not sure I understand the argument. Is he saying we can’t complain about Trump unless we are equally mad about Turkey, Venezuela, Russia, etc? Because we certainly would be if we lived in those countries.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:15 am to CelticDog
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1. Nation where there is history of military coup.
10 years of military dictatorship in Venezuela. The coup to overthrow the dictatorship was led by a military man.
So preventative measures are ok in your book?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:16 am to bamarep
Obama fired a bunch of generals who disagreed with him too.
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