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re: Lawyers present Presidential pardon to Tina Peters's jailers. Colorado: "So?"
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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She literally gave [embed]confidential voter information[/embed]
Be specific about what you mean here.
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:51 pm to lake chuck fan
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There is no strategy. It's a state conviction. Feds can't do anything about it, and that state isn't a Republican state. The Marxist have the upper hand.
Terrible and horrible situation, but that's the reality.
I agree. It was just weird to me that her lawyers hadn't at least game planned this with the White House.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:53 pm to retired_tiger
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Even when the guns were not aimed at you, it was an intimidating experience.
Amen.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:54 pm to IvoryBillMatt
It was a federal election.
POTUS jurisdiction
POTUS jurisdiction
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:05 pm to Zgeo
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It was a federal election.
POTUS jurisdiction
POTUS jurisdiction to do what though? Article II confers pardon power to the President regarding only "offenses against the United States." Colorado conviction = beyond the pardon power of the President.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:07 pm to BBONDS25
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Not a history buff?
i guess not
why don't you fill in the details on how you imagine jared polis is going to pardon traitor peters
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:09 pm to beaux duke
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i guess not why don't you fill in the details on how you imagine jared polis is going to pardon traitor peters
How many times has the federal government used its leverage to get a state to do what it wants? Are you not aware of that??? Yeesh.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:10 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote IvoryBillMatt:
Ailsa, even if she were deemed to be a federal officer, that wouldn't shield her from Colorado state charges: "...if a federal official acts unlawfully, commits unauthorized acts, or acts unreasonably, they can be prosecuted under state law."
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Did you see the pic posted above?
Ailsa, even if she were deemed to be a federal officer, that wouldn't shield her from Colorado state charges: "...if a federal official acts unlawfully, commits unauthorized acts, or acts unreasonably, they can be prosecuted under state law."
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Did you see the pic posted above?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:11 pm to BBONDS25
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How many times has the federal government used its leverage to get a state to do what it wants? Are you not aware of that??? Yeesh.
oh
so you're making vague comments about federal vs state, with no correlation whatsoever to this particular case
your need to declare yourself smart is both hilarious and sad
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:14 pm to Lou the Jew from LSU
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believe Trumps team is arguing that the state charges are over a national election, so national interests are primary. This is really to expose CO as the powerless small state that it is. Likely this is an opening salvo.
God some of you people are retarded.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:15 pm to BBONDS25
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How many times has the federal government used its leverage to get a state to do what it wants? Are you not aware of that???
By making this so public, I think Trump lost whatever leverage he had. Polis can't back down now.
Also, by issuing a pardon that has no legal consequence, Trump looks like a toothless tiger.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:18 pm to BarnHater
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Trump gave them a direct order
Please research federalism.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:24 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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By making this so public, I think Trump lost whatever leverage he had. Polis can't back down now.
Also, by issuing a pardon that has no legal consequence, Trump looks like a toothless tiger.
100%
you must not be a history buff
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:30 pm to Ailsa
quote:
Did you see the pic posted above?
If you're talking about the 4 page letter dated 12/12/25, yes. It's a valiant effort by a lawyer on behalf of his client.
Unfortunately, it's a meritless argument when it comes to whether or not President Trump can pardon Tina Peters for her Colorado conviction.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:32 pm to beaux duke
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oh so you're making vague comments about federal vs state, with no correlation whatsoever to this particular case your need to declare yourself smart is both hilarious and sad
Nothing vague about it. You aren’t aware of the multitude of times the government has used leverage to get states to act accordingly. Ask any 18 year old in Louisiana in 1995 about it. Your ignorance does not have anything to do with me. It just means you’re ignorant.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:33 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Polis can't back down now.
He will.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:34 pm to beaux duke
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you must not be a history buff
Well….he is miles smarter than you. However he is forgetting the times state governors have very publicly done 180s after fed gov pressure is applied.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:34 pm to BBONDS25
you asked "not a history buff" with no context whatsoever and then went on this unhinged rant
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Nothing vague about it. You aren’t aware of the multitude of times the government has used leverage to get states to act accordingly. Ask any 18 year old in Louisiana in 1995 about it. Your ignorance does not have anything to do with me. It just means you’re ignorant.
your need to proclaim yourself smart and others dumb every day on here is pathetic
eta - trump isn't going to do jack shite to colorado on behalf of tina peters and jared polis won't be pardoning her. mark it
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:38 pm to beaux duke
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you asked "not a history buff" with no context whatsoever and then went on this unhinged rant
you not getting the reference to Feds “influencing” states to do what they want is not a me problem nor an unhinged rant. You clearly aren’t a history buff. My point continues to sail waaaaay over your head. Do you know what happened in 1995 (well really 1987 but not enforced until 1995) in Louisiana that pissed off 18-20 year olds. Especially after Louisiana said they would never change the law,…until. The feds used their leverage? Think real hard.
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your need to proclaim yourself smart and others dumb every day on here is pathetic
Link me to a post where I call myself smart. Calling you dumb is an objective fact. At least on this topic. Ignorance is more like it. Yet you opine with such hubris from your place of complete ignorance. It’s fascinating to watch.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:39 pm to beaux duke
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eta - trump isn't going to do jack shite to colorado on behalf of tina peters and jared polis won't be pardoning her. mark it
you aren’t even knowledgeable to the multitude of times it has happened in the past. You have no clue how this will play out. Mark it. 
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