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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 10/29/26 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43524 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 12:42 pm to
Unfortunately while Europe is finally listening to what Trump said and cutting the Russians off, Trump is busy trying to cut deals with Russia.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17647 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 1:30 pm to
Yep

And he’s cutting deals for diesel when there is no need for a deal. Russia is a drop in the bucket when it comes to diesel supply. Prices shot up with the Iran war. Trump doesnt want to admit that but it’s the driver behind the increased prices.

So he cut a deal with Putin for reasons that are not aligned with the supply shortage. He’s lying to everyone.

I have no doubt that Trumps profiting from it somehow
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
28202 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Europeans know that if Ukraine falls…. Russia is at their doorstep and Putin’s ambitions won’t stop there.


Putin's ambitions know no bounds, but the Russian Army has had some very hard times with his Special Operation and isn't in any shape to take on anything.
Posted by goatmilker
With Chinese expect nationalism
Member since Feb 2009
78902 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:50 pm to
When you clear the prisons and the debtors for service to the cause...the cause is in trouble.
Period
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
17022 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:48 pm to
No company needs diesel here. The problem is that Europe and South America want our diesel which we already send to them but they want more.

Refineries under Lula are producing less and less each year
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
17022 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:50 pm to
Russia is dependent on Russia, the Middle East and the US for refined products.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
17022 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

And he’s cutting deals for diesel when there is no need for a deal. Russia is a drop in the bucket when it comes to diesel supply. Prices shot up with the Iran war. Trump doesnt want to admit that but it’s the driver behind the increased prices.


Europe was partially dependent on Russian refined products. They outsourced much of their refining to Russia, the US and Midde East to not create CO2 commissions 20 years ago by working with Russia to modernized and expand refining capacity. That mentality stopped the building of a refinery in Eastern Europe funded by Germany to dismantle a refinery in California, send it to Houston for refurbishing where it sat for a decade 80% of refurbishing completed. The cat cracker was the last unit to complete.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
17022 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:13 pm to
FWIW, Trump is like 99.9% of the public, including oil field baws, he doesn't understand crude oil or refining. It's two separate monoliths with everything the same instead of 100+ variations of each

IMO, the best oil available is from Utah, but its high in paraffin wax content and cannot be pipelined. It is trucked to rail in Salt Lake City then shipped in tank cars. Light and sweet, great for making base oil for the lubricants market. High in cetane content so good for diesel.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
42088 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 7:03 pm to
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cannot be pipelined.


This is false. It can be transported in heated pipelines. Last I heard there was a 100+ mile one in the works up there
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11916 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 8:06 pm to
full of poop. the Mutual of Omaha dude promoted rail car over pipeline because he owned rail roads. they is no best available unless you include parametors such as cost to get it out of ground, cost to ship, refinery splits, inventories, etc. Your simplistic approach is kinda junkyard economics
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
17022 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 10:38 pm to
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This is false. It can be transported in heated pipelines. Last I heard there was a 100+ mile one in the works up there


No pipeline the answer is a shortline RR constructed.which was derailed until 2025. Not sure when completion is scheduled but it will take a few years.

I worked with Marathon which buys a lot delivered Salt Lake City who was interested in the tech described below but waiting until proven. Semi double trailer trains take day to go round trip. It's more than 100 miles.

BTW same reason some Eagle Ford is refused by pipelines. So it is trucked to Permian. A major trading company was investing in tech to mildly hydrocrack it so it could flow then funding cancelled for the pilot plant. A friend has a chemical treatment to drop the wax out and sell separately as slack wax operating in a couple of small fields there.

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
17022 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 10:40 pm to
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Your simplistic approach is kinda junkyard economics


Tell that to the oil companies buying it up there. You have zero clue. A beaker of that waxy crude at room temp looks like a candle in a jar lit with a little liquid on top.

Try harder and don't get your info in the local neighborhood bar.
LINK

Same problem is some parts of Eagle Ford.
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 10:44 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
6190 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 5:58 am to
less than 24 hours since the WSJ reported that Ukraine had given in to pressure to not hit refineries.

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This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 6:16 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:00 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
6110 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:14 am to
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Russia’s Novokuybyshevsk oil refinery in Samara region is heavily ablaze after an overnight Ukrainian drone attack, with at least 6 and reportedly 11 separate fires across the complex. The Rosneft-operated facility processes roughly 8.8 million tons of crude annually and produces aviation kerosene, gasoline and diesel. The refinery is an important supplier within Russia’s fuel and military logistics network.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:15 am to
14 minutes
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
6110 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:21 am to
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Ukraine’s General Staff says its forces struck an Iskander-M launcher near Fatezh in Russia’s Kursk region while ballistic missiles were being reloaded. Further strikes hit Russian ammunition depots near Maloyanisol, Novoyehorivka and Hanusivka, a logistics depot near Bilovodsk, a repair unit near Rubizhne and a repair and recovery base near Pysarivka. Kyiv says the strikes were aimed at reducing Russia’s missile, ammunition and equipment-repair capacity.

How did they target a mobile launcher within Russia without SpaceX's help?

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:29 am to
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Consequences of the visit of drones to Novokuybyshevsk refinery.

Damage with subsequent burning:

ELOU-AVT-9
ELOU-AVT-11
Tanks
Secondary processing complexes

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:41 am to
Wall Street Journal no less. Murdoch's paper.

Kushner has deals in place to purchase Lukoil and other Russian oil company assets, all at highly distressed prices. But as Ukraine keeps blowing up what's left of these assets, Kushner is panicking.

Looks like last night's attack on the Novokuybyshevsk refinery put paid to Kushner's hopes. That and the Russian missile attack on the Dnipro rail station, killing 14 civilians, including two 15-year old girls. Maybe the Russians aren't on board Jared.

quote:

Kushner demanded that Zelensky stop the strikes on Russian refineries because he and Witkoff were spending a lot of “time, energy and jet fuel” on mediation with the Kremlin, — WSJ.

Trump’s son-in-law said this during the October 20 talks in Oslo, which Kushner joined online due to illness. One of the sources described the conversation as “very tough.”

According to the source, a 30-day pause in strikes on oil refineries would be a way for Ukraine to show gratitude.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
6110 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 7:27 am to
Musk's trolls back at work. "... while the platform lets the campaign run." The platform IS the campaign.
quote:

Russia’s Storm-1516 campaign is targeting US Democratic candidates on X. A cluster of posts repeats the same TV clip about Democratic Senate candidate Troy Jackson, whose broadcast chyron says he was accused of threatening staff with an axe.

Repetition turns one allegation into a feed-wide attack. X has not intervened. Moscow can interfere in an election without inventing every story. It can amplify damaging claims until they dominate the conversation, while the platform lets the campaign run.

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