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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:36 pm to
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What exactly do you want us to talk about regarding this? I think its been widely acknowledged that Russia is creeping forward in different areas. Why don't you talk about it? Do you have an opinion or are you just shite posting.

Do you expect Kostyantynivka to fall today, this week, next week, next month? What is the impact to Ukraine's defensive strategy if it falls? Won't they just fall back to the next line of defense 2km back and a year from now Russia MIGHT have advanced to that line?


From what is being discussed openly in Russia after the capture of Maduro, it is more likely that Putin is ousted and Russia retreats before the city is captured.

Now with the capture of a Russian tanker while Russian warships where there and helpless, Putin looks weaker than ever to Russians.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:36 pm to
I posted something a while back where someone was saying Zaporizhzhia is far more important. Losing it would be catastrophic, Kostiantynivka isn't nearly on that level.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:37 pm to
If it falls, Ukraine will just fall back to the next line of defense. Russia has a long way to go to get to Kramatorsk.

They took Soledar in January of 2023 and Bakhmut in May of 2023...approaching 3 years ago. And expended their best unit (Wagner) in the process. They haven't gone very far in 3 years.

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:39 pm to
Zaporizhzhia is much more important than Kostyantynivka. Kostyantynivka is nothing but a meat grinder for Russia now.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:41 pm to
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If it falls, Ukraine will just fall back to the next line of defense. Russia has a long way to go to get to Kramatorsk.


It's almost like they have attacked East Baton Rouge Parish and took Catfish Town and on the border of Beauregard Town, and threatening Spanish Town. A seriously retarded way to say proclaim Russia is making progress.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:44 pm to
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They haven't gone very far in 3 years.


The pace is slow but it’s very heavily fortified areas we are talking about.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:46 pm to
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It's almost like they have attacked East Baton Rouge Parish and took Catfish Town and on the border of Beauregard Town, and threatening Spanish Town. A seriously retarded way to say proclaim Russia is making progress


The Cajun Navy probably has comparable naval power to Russia at this point
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:47 pm to
If Ukraine can keep Russia at this pace...Russia will run out of steam, the cracks are already showing. Go read the Russian MilBloggers on Telegram, they know its coming.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:48 pm to
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The pace is slow but it’s very heavily fortified areas we are talking about


I think the pro-Ukraine side doesn't account enough for the style of warfare being a part of why the pace of advance is slow, while the pro-Russia side doesn't account enough for how inept Russia is in regards to pace of advance.
This post was edited on 1/7/26 at 12:50 pm
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 12:54 pm to
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Kostyantynivka is nothing but a meat grinder for Russia now.


If you consider the defense of Donbas to be important, then Kostyantynivka is important. If Russia can maintain its current pace of advance (maybe it can’t) then Ukraine is going to have to concede the Donbas to Russia. Zaporzhizhzhia is a much bigger and more important city as a city, but kostyantynivka is I think as important as any place right now because of the strategic importance to the defense of Donbas now that Pokrovsk has been taken by Russia.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:00 pm to
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What do you want us to talk about, the lack of Russian progress in the last month?


Russia broke through and crossed three streets!!!!
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:02 pm to
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What is my position? I'd like to know what you think it is


Fifth grade teacher?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:03 pm to
Trump acknowledges Putin wants all of Ukraine...

Trump: Russia would have seized Ukraine long ago without me


Mariya Yemets, VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — 7 January, 18:00

Quote: "Without my involvement, Russia would have ALL OF UKRAINE right now.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:06 pm to
It is very much WW1 trench warfare being fought with drones but without the massive infantry assaults across no man's land.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:07 pm to
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If Ukraine can keep Russia at this pace...Russia will run out of steam


I don’t buy the idea that Ukraine is intentionally bleeding Russia as a matter of overarching strategy. If they are, then it means intentionally conceding cities (Pokrovsk, Mirnohrad, Siversk, Hulyaipole just in the past couple of months) for that purpose. Don’t buy that. Maybe I’m wrong.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:13 pm to
What is your opinion of the Russian war effort to date and the current status of the Russian military?
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:19 pm to
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I think someone (Putin or a previous Russian, when Trump visited Russia in 1987 and then came back and started running full page ads attacking the concept of NATO, during the Cold War) sold Trump on a vision of "Great Power Spheres of Influence," where "America First" means the US just controls all of the Americas and whoever is biggest/strongest takes the other parts of the world, and they all just isolate themselves, pretty much, turning military and security things internally to destroy dissent. Of course trade and "deals" can still happen... benefitting the Oligarchs in charge,



This is exactly the plan.

The massive problem (among others) is that neither Russia nor China are capable of running their respective 'spheres' - it's laughable at how corrupt, incompetent, and just plain stupid Russia is and there are indications that China could have the exact same problems, possibly even worse.

As a result, this is a HORRIBLE deal for the United States. Oh, it's great for whomever is running the country and attempts to use this as a way to pillage our citizenry and interfere in sovereign nations with huge oil reserves, but it absolutely limits American influence in a world where globalization is going to happen no matter who doesn't want it.


I have been saying that in this thread (and its predecessor) for a while, and in some Poli Board threads where people question the logic of certain things that happen... it used to that people replied with "TDS libtard bullshite" or whatever... now, they don't respond... or they start defending the concept of "spheres of influence" and "multipolarism"...
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:23 pm to
I think Russia would’ve satisfied with securing a land bridge to Crimea and the remaining territory in Donbas currently under Ukrainian control. I think Russia has a large enough population and sufficient natural resources to sustain itself economically and continue the war effort long enough to secure these limited objectives militarily and I think it will do so. Maybe I am wrong.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:23 pm to
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"...but attempted to steal American oil from Venezuela before it was intercepted by the USCG."



This is batshit crzy
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:27 pm to
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Seeing this play out, it is difficult to believe that this tanker was about oil at all.


What does Russia need oil for? if they did, could they not get it from Iran, transported on the Caspian? The distance makes no sense, to me at least... and Russia and Iran have no shortage of oil in storage for various reasons at the moment, right?
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