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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 4:46 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 12/26/25 at 4:46 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Except, of course, that any official territorial concessions would legally require a vote of the Ukrainian people, so Putin will have to agree to a 60-day ceasefire so that the vote can be held. Zelensky will be publicly inviting Trump to Ukraine to make the case to the Ukrainian people as to why they should vote for the plan and put their trust in the US to back it up.
In sum, Zelensky is going to put the ball right back in Putin's court. Will Putin agree to a 60-day ceasefire? Will he accept the kind of NATO presence in Ukraine that would be necessary for Ukrainian security guarantees? Doubtful.
They told us a while back they could do elections during wartime, but they expect the Russians to buy that they need a ceasefire to do this?
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 5:24 pm to VolSquatch
Laws have to be passed first to allow this and the ceasefire so frontline military can vote.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:24 pm to CitizenK
Then how were they going to have an election without a ceasefire? Military wouldn't get to vote?
Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:29 pm to VolSquatch
quote:Their constitution prohibits holding elections during a war.
They told us a while back they could do elections during wartime,
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:25 pm to LSURussian
Ukraine's parliament begins work on law for elections under martial law
December 26, 2025, 01:03 PM
Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada has started work on a bill to define the procedure for holding elections during war, as announced at an online meeting of the working group on Dec. 26.
The first meeting of the special working group, chaired by parliament's first deputy speaker Oleksandr Korniyenko, has now taken place.
Officials said the legislature has begun preparing a bill on holding elections under martial law.
The working group includes 62 members: lawmakers, representatives of the Central Election Commission, soldiers and judges.
Meetings are planned every two weeks, with the next tentatively scheduled for early January.
Elections in Ukraine during war
On Dec. 18, Zelenskyy said he is ready for presidential elections in response to a U.S. request. At the same time, the issue of parliamentary and local elections has not yet been raised.
On Dec. 22, Servant of the People faction leader David Arakhamia said the Verkhovna Rada is forming a working group to "quickly process the issue" of possible presidential elections under martial law.
Ukraine's parliament speaker Ruslan Stefanchuk approved creating the working group on Dec. 23, to be led by first deputy speaker Oleksandr Korniyenko. Arakhamia later said the Central Election Commission resumed work on the State Voter Register, which may indicate gradual preparations for elections.
On Dec. 23, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Ukraine could hold a referendum on the 20-point peace agreement simultaneously with elections. He stated that the agreement could also be submitted to parliament, with security guarantees taking effect only after ratification or public approval.
NV
December 26, 2025, 01:03 PM
Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada has started work on a bill to define the procedure for holding elections during war, as announced at an online meeting of the working group on Dec. 26.
The first meeting of the special working group, chaired by parliament's first deputy speaker Oleksandr Korniyenko, has now taken place.
Officials said the legislature has begun preparing a bill on holding elections under martial law.
The working group includes 62 members: lawmakers, representatives of the Central Election Commission, soldiers and judges.
Meetings are planned every two weeks, with the next tentatively scheduled for early January.
Elections in Ukraine during war
On Dec. 18, Zelenskyy said he is ready for presidential elections in response to a U.S. request. At the same time, the issue of parliamentary and local elections has not yet been raised.
On Dec. 22, Servant of the People faction leader David Arakhamia said the Verkhovna Rada is forming a working group to "quickly process the issue" of possible presidential elections under martial law.
Ukraine's parliament speaker Ruslan Stefanchuk approved creating the working group on Dec. 23, to be led by first deputy speaker Oleksandr Korniyenko. Arakhamia later said the Central Election Commission resumed work on the State Voter Register, which may indicate gradual preparations for elections.
On Dec. 23, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Ukraine could hold a referendum on the 20-point peace agreement simultaneously with elections. He stated that the agreement could also be submitted to parliament, with security guarantees taking effect only after ratification or public approval.
NV
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:30 pm to GOP_Tiger
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The big news is that Zelensky is going to agree to something like the Witkoff plan. He's going to agree to give up the rest of Donetsk in exchange for Zaporizhzhia, etc. The US and NATO are going to bestow something like Article V guarantees for Ukrainian security. And Zelensky is coming to Mar-a-Lago on Saturday to officially sign off on it.
Except, of course, that any official territorial concessions would legally require a vote of the Ukrainian people, so Putin will have to agree to a 60-day ceasefire so that the vote can be held. Zelensky will be publicly inviting Trump to Ukraine to make the case to the Ukrainian people as to why they should vote for the plan and put their trust in the US to back it up.
In sum, Zelensky is going to put the ball right back in Putin's court. Will Putin agree to a 60-day ceasefire? Will he accept the kind of NATO presence in Ukraine that would be necessary for Ukrainian security guarantees? Doubtful.
And then what does President Trump do? We'll see
The story I've heard is that Witkoff finally met with the Ukrainians and the Ukrainians did to him what the Russians did - they poured their own side of the conflict down his throat and sent him back to Trump with a peace plan that they knew the Russians would never accept.
Honestly, Witkoff doesn't seem to be anything more than a monkey with a cup at this point. We're no closer to peace than we were six months ago.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:14 pm to Leopold
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Vlad
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:25 pm to VolSquatch
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Then how were they going to have an election without a ceasefire? Military wouldn't get to vote?
The reason for a 60 day ceasefire to get all of this done first
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