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Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:46 am to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:46 am to
Hegseth halted weapons for Ukraine despite military analysis that the aid wouldn’t jeopardize U.S. readiness

July 4, 2025, 5:00 AM CDT

The move blindsided the State Department, Ukraine, European allies and members of Congress, who demanded an explanation from the Pentagon.

The Defense Department held up a shipment of U.S. weapons for Ukraine this week over what officials said were concerns about its low stockpiles. But an analysis by senior military officers found that the aid package would not jeopardize the American military’s own ammunition supplies, according to three U.S. officials.

The move to halt the weapons shipment blindsided the State Department, members of Congress, officials in Kyiv and European allies, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the matter.

Critics of the decision included Republicans and Democrats who support aiding Ukraine’s fight against Russia. A leading House Democrat, Adam Smith of Washington, said it was disingenuous of the Pentagon to use military readiness to justify halting aid when the real reason appears to be simply to pursue an agenda of cutting off American aid to Ukraine.

“We are not at any lower point, stockpile-wise, than we’ve been in the 3½ years of the Ukraine conflict,” Smith, the ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee, told NBC News.

Smith said that his staff has “seen the numbers” and, without going into detail, that there was no indication of a shortage that would justify suspending aid to Ukraine.

Suspending the shipment of military aid to Ukraine was a unilateral step by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, according to three congressional aides and a former U.S. official familiar with the matter.
It was the third time Hegseth on his own has stopped shipments of aid to Ukraine, the sources said. In the two previous cases, in February and in May, his actions were reversed days later.

NBC News

This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 8:50 am
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8251 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:57 am to
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“We are not at any lower point, stockpile-wise, than we’ve been in the 3½ years of the Ukraine conflict,” Smith, the ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee, told NBC News.

We know that's not true. We can track the buys in Congressional appropriations bills

We can also track news reports on interceptors fired.

Those are at epically low inventory right now.

I do give that many other things should not be low inventory.

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The delayed shipment included dozens of Patriot interceptors, coveted weapons for Ukraine to knock out incoming missiles, as well as 155 mm artillery rounds, Hellfire missiles, precision-guided missile systems known as GMLRS, grenade launchers, Stinger surface-to-air missiles and AIM air-to-air missiles for Ukraine’s small fleet of F-16 fighter jets.

The 155mm rounds and grenade launchers make no sense.

The Patriots Hellfires, Stingers, and AIMs make sense if we are going to war with Iran again.
Posted by BeatingU
Member since Jul 2025
231 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 9:01 am to
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despite military analysis that the aid wouldn’t jeopardize U.S. readiness


Who did the analysis?

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A leading House Democrat, Adam Smith of Washington


Posted by BeatingU
Member since Jul 2025
231 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 9:07 am to
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She is clueless. Ukraine banned the RUSSIAN Orthodox Church. The Orthodox Church as a whole is the Byzantium which grants the right for Greek, russian, Ukrainian, etc... to call itself Orthodox.

Another dumbass like Beating Meat


No, only you would know. A literal nobody on a small forum's subforum in the bottom thread.
Posted by BeatingU
Member since Jul 2025
231 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 9:17 am to
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I'm triggered and being a whiny bitch


That's about right.




Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8251 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 9:18 am to
https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2025/07/02/patriot-missiles-halted-is-u-s-ammo-production-breaking-down/

Really good take on what exactly the issues may be.

And it's not good.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 9:38 am to
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BeatingU


Who is this chap? We like him a lot!
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5722 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 9:45 am to
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I do give that many other things should not be low inventory.


If true, it's the "unilateral" aspect that is worrisome. It should be Trump's decision.
Posted by BeatingU
Member since Jul 2025
231 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:04 am to
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If you don't think these fckers are paid by China then you don't realize the levels China is willing to go to create US hate.


No, they're that retarded. You actually think they run those bot accounts for 3.5 years now to finally turn on USA.

This is what NAFO morons are, especially in Ukraine and EU.

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Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8251 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:07 am to
From day 1 China has been pumping anti American propaganda into the Ukraine situation.

No one waited 3 years.

Check the dudes post history there's at least 2 years of hating America and zero years of being pro USA
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 10:08 am
Posted by BeatingU
Member since Jul 2025
231 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:21 am to
Did you hibernate when all Ukros rallied behind Zelensky and shitted on Trump for weeks after the oval office shitshow?

And then many e-trolls and fanboys started putting British flags on their avatars to show how unhappy they are with US.

You clearly don't understand those stupid people. They're that dumb, collectively and individually. Very reactionary, no strategic thought or diplomacy.
This post was edited on 7/4/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5722 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:24 am to
Zelensky, Trump discuss air defense, joint drone production amid Russian strikes

by Tim Zadorozhnyy July 4, 2025 4:47 PM

President Volodymyr Zelensky and U.S. President Donald Trump held a phone conversation on July 4, agreeing to strengthen Ukraine's air defenses, Zelensky announced on Telegram.

The call came as Russia escalated its aerial campaign across Ukraine, including an overnight July 4 attack that struck Kyiv and several other regions, injuring at least 23 civilians and sparking dozens of fires in the capital.

"Today we discussed the situation: Russian air strikes and, more broadly, the situation on the front lines. President Trump is very well informed," Zelensky said.

"We discussed air defense options and agreed to work on increasing airspace protection. We agreed on a meeting between our teams."

Zelensky said the two leaders also discussed Ukraine's defense industry potential and explored possibilities for direct cooperation with U.S. partners.

"We are ready for direct projects with America and believe that this is extremely necessary for security, especially with regard to drones and related technologies," he added.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8251 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:24 am to
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Did you hibernate when all Ukros rallied behind Zelensky and shitted on Trump for weeks after the oval office shitshow?

Dude they shite on Biden for 4 years.

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You clearly don't understand those stupid people. They're that dumb, collectively and individually. Very reactionary, no strategic thought or diplomacy.

What exactly makes you an expert in Ukrainians...
How long have you known them?
Do you speak Ukrainian?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8251 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:26 am to
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"We discussed air defense options and agreed to work on increasing airspace protection. We agreed on a meeting between our teams."

Looks more and more like an actual shortage of parts.

Hopefully the new funding bill turns the jets on American manufacturing of these items.
Posted by BeatingU
Member since Jul 2025
231 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:27 am to
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check the dudes post history there's at least 2 years of hating America and zero years of being pro USA



Umm, I did. This is what I found. You're in denial about NAFO/Ukraine retards. They're not pro-US. They're just anti-Russia.

Same guy:

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Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135071 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:28 am to
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BeatingU


Who is this chap?
John Barron’s newest alter.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26830 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:36 am to






Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135071 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:37 am to
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Did you hibernate when all Ukros rallied behind Zelensky and shitted on Trump for weeks after the oval office shitshow?

You weren't here on the board when that happened. Or were you...??
Posted by BeatingU
Member since Jul 2025
231 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:41 am to
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What exactly makes you an expert in Ukrainians...
How long have you known them?
Do you speak Ukrainian?


Yes I had enough personal experience with them, we had an influx of them to the area last 10 years. I cannot say anything positive about those I encoutered.

I caught a little Ukrainian shite try to peel off my Trump sticker off my car back in 2016. Saw it on camera, then when I saw him in the building with his father I approached them and told that if he doesn't apologize and give me $20 for this sticker, I'll make a police report. Hilariously the father tried to argue with me in his broken English that $20 was too much.

Then I had a hit and run fender bender with another fricking Ukrainian, who also barely spoke any English about 4 years ago. fricker got out the car to look at his damage and then just took off but I got the plate and so did another person. For once cops actually did their job and tracked him down. He was issued a criminal summons and was supposed to appear. POS never showed up to a single arraignment and then moved out of state. He kept sending a judge google translated letter as to the reason he can't show up in court. I think there's still a bench warrant out for this retard but a misdemeanor probably won't be a cause to extradite.


Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8251 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:44 am to
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Dude fcking hates America

Since pre-Ukraine,

Chinese bot fcker.

Doesn't seem remotely Estonian.
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