re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

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No more lord bebo bs propaganda. What difference is it to you??? You came back after being banned, just to shite in this thread more... like there was some sort of incentive. What is it, comrade?

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Take a mydol, retard. You're shitting up this thread just fine by your sky screaming and delusional cope.

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Yes... with no ammo and old arms... they rotate troops in and out as "tourists" but they can't bring in arms

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So will America's military.

We will see a bunch of terrain mapping targeting systems on drones also perhaps with some form of Ai.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/02/ukraine-weapons-european-money-tactics-00437675

Europe can pay for the Upgrades and Expansions of our manufacturing.

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Ukraine is striking out on getting the U.S. to send it more weapons. So it plans to try something new: Asking Washington to let Europe purchase U.S. weapons for Ukraine, according to six people with knowledge of the request.

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I'm loving it

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As part of the new push, several European governments are exploring plans to buy American-made weapons from their defense budgets for transfer to Ukraine. The money would count toward the new NATO defense spending number, but there have been no solid commitments yet. Those transfers would have to come with U.S. government approval, details of which are being discussed, according to one person familiar with the developing plans. This person, like the others, was granted anonymity to share details of the discussions, which have not been previously reported.

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Perfect solution for everyone...

Except Russia...

Unless Europe... shockingly yet again fails to put their money where their mouth is...

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I'm loving it

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It's a fantasy where Ukraine never embezzled their own defense spending. They're missing 10s of billions as we speak.

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Your moniker refers to beating off someone in the trenches before you kiss their "icon"?

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I bet it made more sense in your head before you typed this up.

Damn, there's almost too much economic news from Russia these days. Well, bad news sells and the whole world is a buyer of this story.

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Coal warehouses in Russian ports are overflowing. According to estimates, 50 million tons of coal have accumulated in warehouses. This is 1/4 of all exports for 2024. The reason is the fall in the world price of coal.

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Kommersant.ru

Those limpet mines won't help...

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[Russian] Oil and gas revenues continue to collapse Oil and gas revenues in June amounted to 494.8 billion rubles June: -33.7% y/y. January-June: -17% y/y.

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interfax.ru

Someone else notices it -

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There's been so much bad news for Russia in 2 days that I decided to write a thread. Let's go

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Due to Gazprom's constant losses, they decided to shift the responsibility of paying taxes to other companies ahaha

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Due to a lack of money in the budget, they are considering deregulating domestic prices for gasoline and diesel fuel

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To save problematic industries they want to introduce special taxes and special funds

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Agricultural machinery manufacturers face 33% sales drop, face closure

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Continued non military funding. - I'm curious as to what this would be.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-aid-projects-wither-western-funding-drops-2025-07-02/

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Funding Reduction: By late March 2025, only about $1.27 billion of the $4.28 billion budget for 39 USAID programs in Ukraine remained active.

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Continued Intel/Sat support. - Cut both and only resumed them when it was replaced by NATO allies.

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NATO Intel Sat was never going to be sufficient.

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Zelesnsky picked a fight with him on camera. - You know this isn't true, Zelenskyy was ambushed.

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Again, right or wrong, Zelensky could have avoided that fight.
He chose to engage in that fight, and Trump did not ambush him, Zelensky very obviously tried to lobby on camera and try to get a verbal commitment from Trump.
It was an idiotic move, knowing Trump, but Zelensky has lived so long in a bubble where he is worshiped that he screwed up when working in a hostile environment. And considering the close relationship between Biden and Zelensky, Trump was a hostile environment.

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Why should Trump send munitions to a country that hates his guts? - It looks like he's not. Or they were cut by his junior DoD hire that can't read a chain of command flowchart.

Trump cannot legally interfere with the established Biden drawdowns until they expire. Rather, let's ask ourselves why Trump is hated so much. He has sided with Putin on every issue and is increasing his support of the Russians. The issue is not Trump's relationship with Zelenskyy, but his relationship with Putin.

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Again, Putin makes him feel good, you know that's significant.

Recently Zelensky has realized that if you want Trump to play nice you have to be nice.

But again, everyone who hates Trump over Ukraine hates him for many reasons, they trash him on a daily basis.
Would it kill the pro Ukraine side to treat the man as if they would have any gratitude if he supported Ukraine?
You know that won't happen.

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Especially since US forces need these same Missile Interceptors. - They may temporarily need the Patriots after the Qatar attack but there is little evidence that they need anything else. If they do, the DoD has massively dropped the ball and the US is not Trump's "strongest military in the world". Plus, if they are in such need, why have they been steadily sending these armaments for three years now?

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It's not that simple
https://en.defence-ua.com/industries/only_four_companies_in_us_produce_engines_and_it_decides_how_many_gmlrs_missiles_go_to_ukraine-8328.html
All Missiles and interceptors use the same tiny family of manufactures.
It doesn't matter if you need the air to air missiles shot over Iraq,
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/usaf-fighters-kept-going-chaos-defend-israel-part-2/
The Patriots shot over Quatar
https://www.twz.com/land/largest-patriot-salvo-in-u-s-military-history-launched-defending-al-udeid-air-base-against-iranian-missiles
The THAAD shot over Israel
https://www.newsweek.com/us-missile-defenses-heavily-depleted-shielding-israel-report-2091465
The Naval Standard Missiles shot in the red sea protecting shipping
https://www.twz.com/news-features/navy-just-disclosed-how-many-of-each-of-its-surface-to-air-missiles-it-fired-during-red-sea-fight
They all use the same set of parts from the same 4 manufactures.

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Zelensky would rather shite on Trump and let his country bleed to death than do the same level of sucking up to Trump that Putin does. - Zelenskyy has does nothing except suck up to Trump and thank him for the support dozens of times. The whole world knows this is the only way to handle Trump. Just look at the email NATO Head Rutte sent Trump last week. The sycophancy was off the chart. But that's what works and no one knows this better than Zelenskyy. Finally, we all know Putin does not suck up to Trump. Quite the opposite.

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I would counter that until recently Putin was quite praising Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/28/europe/putin-trump-intelligent-experienced-russia-ukraine-intl-latam

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22 September 2024: Zelensky tells the New Yorker magazine: "My feeling is that Trump doesn't really know how to stop the war, even if he might think he knows how."

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Thu November 28, 2024 Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday praised US President-elect Donald Trump as an “intelligent and experienced” politician capable of finding “solutions,” as tensions between Moscow and the West ramp up over the war in Ukraine.

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I do think their relationship keeps degrading and eventually Trump will hate Putin.
I think Rutte and Zelensky have it right. It doesn't matter if you think you are Roosevelt and Trump is Stalin, Roosevelt went out of his way to work with Stalin.
I really do think the interceptor part of the the drawdown is out of necessity

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It's easy to blame the victim rather than face the uncomfortable truth of a massive criminal organization invading a smaller country and threatening the West with nuclear annihilation every week. That's exactly the aim of the Russian misinformation. But once you see this clearly and realize it's a damned good fight, you'll accept America's responsibility towards Ukraine. And refuse to back down one fricking inch.

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Nope, we do not have a responsibility towards Ukraine, they are not an ally.
Thats where you miss the boat.
What the US did under Biden was out of goodness, not responsibility.
And that goodness has been thrown in our faces by EuroTrash that won't contribute themselves.
Look at Denmark, they basically gave Ukraine all their weapons, because they don't even think they need an army, the US will take care of them.
Look at Spain, the most worthless of the bunch.

Tell me that we have more responsibility than they do militarily.

Do I think supporting Ukraine is good for US global security? Hell yes.
But it's balanced against all of our other commitments.