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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:34 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:34 pm to crazy4lsu
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They are sidelined for now. I think people in the European security sector do take the Russians seriously but given the economic situation on the continent, it is going to be hard to balance those concerns while also dealing with a population who wants to see their life improve in a tangible way.
Ok, well their lives are going to get far worse in a tangible way if they are invaded
Taking a rational approach, Russia is going to be neutered long after Putin is gone by the end of this. To me it seems like some countries are "not letting a good tragedy go to waste" and setting themselves up to Patriot-Act their populaces in an overreaction sense like we did after 9/11.
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:38 pm to Leopold
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Poland is rearming like a maniac, the Baltic States and Romania are openly panicking, Germany and Italy have started spending more and more on defense because of Putin, and they aren't the only ones. We won't even mention Finland and Sweden.
NATO members acting as if they might actually be invaded by Russia is just completely silly to me. And that's a nice way to put it.
Its scare marketing directed @ their populace because defense spending increases GDP, and even if they don't do that its a slam dunk issue to posture on to gain brownie points with voters with no actual cost to themselves.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:56 pm to VolSquatch
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NATO members acting as if they might actually be invaded by Russia is just completely silly to me. And that's a nice way to put it.
It's silly until you realize the Russians invaded their next-door neighbor and have repeatedly threated the rest of Europe while the United States has stood by and seems to even be encouraging the Russians by trying to blame the Ukrainians. Preparing for a war isn't marketing, it's common sense.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:00 pm to crazy4lsu
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Well, politics is factional. The faction in European politics who either were on Russian payrolls or underrated the Russian threat still exist. They are sidelined for now. I think people in the European security sector do take the Russians seriously but given the economic situation on the continent, it is going to be hard to balance those concerns while also dealing with a population who wants to see their life improve in a tangible way.
This.
That, and it's geographic. Poland, Romania, and the Baltic states are worried, but Portugal and Spain may not be in so much of a hurry.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:41 pm to Leopold
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This.
That, and it's geographic. Poland, Romania, and the Baltic states are worried, but Portugal and Spain may not be in so much of a hurry.
Don't forget the ultimate non-NATO freeriders... Switzerland and Austria. They are both "Neutral" countries who will not take a side in war... the Swiss used their expertise as the world's best mountain miners in the 19th Century to make hidden but defensible fortresses that the entire country hides in if invaded. Not sure what Austria plans to do if the shite hits the fan...
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:42 pm to Leopold
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It's silly until you realize the Russians invaded their next-door neighbor
The one that was a part of Russia in the past 50 years or so? The one that overthrew their pro-Russian government,, threatening Russia with loss of access to Crimea? That one?
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Preparing for a war isn't marketing, it's common sense.
Preparing for a war and preparing as if an inept and incapable Russia are going to imminently invade are separate endeavors. They are supposed to be "preparing for a war" at all time just by simply being NATO members.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:48 pm to cypher
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Key Takeaways Russia launched its largest combined drone and missile strike against Ukraine of the war to date on the night of September 6 to 7 with 823 total projectiles. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) attempted to deny that Russian forces struck civilian infrastructure across Ukraine or the Cabinet of Ministers building within Kyiv City. Russian drone strike packages against Ukraine will likely continue to expand as long as Russia is able to increase its long-range strike drone production. Russia is continuing to expand its long-range strike drone production in part due to support from the People’s Republic of China (PRC). Russia’s latest strikes against Ukraine further demonstrate that Russian President Vladimir Putin is disinterested in ending his war in Ukraine and stopping the killing. Ukraine continued its attacks against military and oil infrastructure in Russia on the night of September 6 to 7. Ukrainian forces advanced in the Kostyantynivka-Druzhkivka and Dobropillya tactical areas. Russian forces advanced in northern Kharkiv Oblast.
Nothing about a new offense. LINK
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:54 pm to VolSquatch
Bro - The Ukraine hasn't been a part of Russia since at least the 19th century - the Soviet Union was NOT Russia. And when they were a part of Russia it was completely against their will.
And I don't care how inept the invasion is - millions are dying now as part of a completely F'd up invasion. If any country stupidly tried to invade us I'd still tell our government to get ready.
And I don't care how inept the invasion is - millions are dying now as part of a completely F'd up invasion. If any country stupidly tried to invade us I'd still tell our government to get ready.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:59 pm to VolSquatch
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NATO members acting as if they might actually be invaded by Russia is just completely silly to me.
Being prepared is the best way to prevent any further misadventures on Putin's part. Being weak is the best way to encourage Putin's Peter the Great dreams.
The Baltics are NATO members and they are in the most vulnerable situation. They stand between Russia and Kaliningrad.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:10 pm to Auburn1968
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Being prepared is the best way to prevent any further misadventures on Putin's part.
If we can get 2,000 former F16 pilots to work as cOnTraCtOrs
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:12 pm to doubleb
it's interesting because I've heard a couple of people suggest that Russia has changed their strategy from trying to take over the Ukraine to trying to 'break' it. That makes sense to me, especially from a psychological standpoint when looking at Putin.
But the Russians absolutely don't have the manpower to take Kiev, much less the whole of Ukraine so they are falling back on just bombing them into oblivion.
But the Russians absolutely don't have the manpower to take Kiev, much less the whole of Ukraine so they are falling back on just bombing them into oblivion.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:20 pm to Leopold
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Soviet Union was NOT Russia.
Same group of people in the same place doing the same shite they always do. But they used a different name and Leopold was completely thrown off the scent
Just not a serious person. Sorry.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:21 pm to texag7
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If we can get 2,000 former F16 pilots to work as cOnTraCtOrs
Just 2,000 F16 pilots from stopping the Russian spread
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:22 pm to Auburn1968
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Being prepared is the best way to prevent any further misadventures on Putin's part. Being weak is the best way to encourage Putin's Peter the Great dreams.
I'm not saying spend 0 on defense. But If the only reason you're doing something is to prevent something that won't happen.... That isn't a good reason
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:37 pm to VolSquatch
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Vladimir Oblast is located 190 kilometers (120 mi) east of Moscow.
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The commander of the unmanned systems forces reported that the Vtorovo intermediate pumping station, which pumped diesel into the Moscow Ring Product Pipeline, was attacked at night.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:51 pm to VolSquatch
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I'm not saying spend 0 on defense. But If the only reason you're doing something is to prevent something that won't happen.... That isn't a good reason
But not to spend money is the best way to guarantee something will happen. You have to build a strong defense, or you invite problems.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:00 pm to VolSquatch
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NATO members acting as if they might actually be invaded by Russia is just completely silly to me. And that's a nice way to put it.
You, of course, realize that that's the whole point of NATO, right? Since Russia and the USSR are
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Same group of people in the same place doing the same shite they always do.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:03 pm to doubleb
Again, defense spending and preparing for an imminent invasion are two separate things. One is required, one is a FAR elevated endeavor from the other in response to stimuli
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:04 pm to Leopold
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You, of course, realize that that's the whole point of NATO, right? Since Russia and the USSR are
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Same group of people in the same place doing the same shite they always do.
You just said they were different
Going to define them as whatever best suits your argument at the time?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:06 pm to Coeur du Tigre
The Ukrainians want all 60 of these countries to know who started targeting national government buildings first so Kyiv can't be blamed for what follows.
Establishing the physical evidence of the Russian Iskander-K cruise missile that was aimed at the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers building in Kyiv.
It carried a 450 kg warhead, but failed to detonate. The extensive damage was done from the rocket fuel burning.
Remains of the missile -
Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here. Establishing the physical evidence of the Russian Iskander-K cruise missile that was aimed at the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers building in Kyiv.
It carried a 450 kg warhead, but failed to detonate. The extensive damage was done from the rocket fuel burning.
Remains of the missile -
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