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re: Last year the Salvation Army blasted white people for racism

Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:22 am to
Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2993 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:22 am to
I used to donate to them on a weekly basis as my united way charity of choice and would always put money into their red budgets around Christmas. I noticed less people stopping to put money into the buckets this year, but didn’t know why, now I know. No more money from me
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297219 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:23 am to
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No more money from me


If this is your standard, you'll never donate money to anyone or anything.

Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2993 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:25 am to
You are wrong Rodgertheshrubbber, I donate to my church. My church doesn’t teach racial policies, anyone is welcome to worship no matter what color of the skin.
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 9:28 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297219 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:26 am to
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I donate to my church.


Do you agree with your church 100% of the time?

Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2993 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:28 am to
I believe in the Lord Jesus as my savior and that is what my church teaches. No reason to criticize one race over another
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297219 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:29 am to
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I believe in the Lord Jesus as my savior and that is what my church teaches.


So does the SA.

They're on your side.
Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2993 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:32 am to
Hey if you want to donate to the racist organization, be my guess. By the way since you are defending their policies, do you donate to them? I am free to donate to whatever organization I chose.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297219 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:34 am to
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Hey if you want to donate to the racist organization,


I got news for you, this disease has permeated every denomination.

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53851 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:34 am to
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I think it was a marketing hire gone rogue. They backtracked almost immediately. SA does some good work.


Still donate at the kettle because I've known the older gentlemen that's stood by that kettle for years, I no longer donate larger sums to the organization.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21569 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:38 am to
St. Jude is legit, from personal experience. Dollar for dollar, what the kids actually get, in way of treatment & cost-free facilities, is exactly as advertised. When looking at the other charities, just look up how big their organizational staffs are; that's where a lot of donations go, to pay the paper pushers.
Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2993 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:51 am to
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I got news for you, this disease has permeated every denomination.
Proof is required not your spectulation.
Posted by Raz
Member since Oct 2006
8394 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:59 am to
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I think it was a marketing hire gone rogue. They backtracked almost immediately.


Well here was their statement about it:

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The truth is that The Salvation Army believes that racism is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity, and that we are called by God to work toward a world where all people are loved, accepted, and valued. Our positional statement on racism makes this clear. These beliefs and goals are critically important because we know that racism exists, and we are determined to do everything the Bible asks of us to overcome it.

The Salvation Army occasionally publishes internal study guides on various complex topics to help foster positive conversations and grace-filled reflection among Salvationists. By openly discussing these issues, we always hope to encourage the development of a more thoughtful organization that is better positioned to support those in need. But no one is being told how to think. Period.

In this case, the guide “Let’s Talk About Racism,” was issued as a voluntary resource, but it has since become a focus of controversy. We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore those efforts. At the same time, International Headquarters realized that certain aspects of the guide may need to be clarified.
Consequently, for both reasons, the International Social Justice Commission has now withdrawn the guide for appropriate review.


They didn’t pull it because an employee went rogue and the organization disagreed with it. They pulled it under duress because it was getting negative publicity and hurting the brand. Although someone probably got hammered internally for putting their cultural Marxism in writing in such overt language. Thus they pulled it for “appropriate review” and so “aspects” of the guide can be “clarified.”
Posted by Cajun Tigah
Tennessee Mountains
Member since Jan 2005
4071 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:59 am to
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Do you agree with your church 100% of the time?


First time my church calls out white people for being inherently racist, they won’t get anymore of my money either.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12830 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:10 am to
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I think it was a marketing hire gone rogue. They backtracked almost immediately.

SA does some good work.


Donating to a charity requires trust since a lot of them are scams (remember the Nicole Charitable Fund?). The Salvation Army took off their mask and revealed who they are. Lot of work to restore that trust.
Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2993 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:14 am to
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First time my church calls out white people for being inherently racist, they won’t get anymore of my money either.
Amen to that brother. Jesus taught that racism doesn’t belong in his church.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30911 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:17 am to
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St. Jude is legit, from personal experience. Dollar for dollar, what the kids actually get, in way of treatment & cost-free facilities, is exactly as advertised. When looking at the other charities, just look up how big their organizational staffs are; that's where a lot of donations go, to pay the paper pushers.
AMEN!
St. Jude and my church are the two that I support. Their admin.expense to donations ratio is about the lowest of ALL the major charities, AND they accept ALL the people whose children need help to fight their cancer.
I don't know of a more deserving cause than St Jude's Children Hospital!
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:21 am to
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Pray tell what are these values? Are blacks a singular monolithic group, this seems racist on its face.

Not only that, but they promote the absolute worst attributes of black urban culture as "the norm" then say those are the cultural norms that should be lauded.
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
1410 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:27 am to
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They backtracked almost immediately.


This was not my recollection. Perhaps someone can correct my memory of the situation.

ETA: what Raz posted was a non-apologetic "apology"/statement.
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 10:31 am
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16724 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:28 am to
I would recommend giving locally. To your local soup kitchen, homeless shelter, battered women shelter, or a veterans group.

The Salvation Army and the Red Cross are very wasteful with their donations.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22956 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:30 am to
I used to donate to the Salvation Army but this is why I no longer do.
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