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re: La. needs to grow the economy
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:19 am to Tiger Roux
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:19 am to Tiger Roux
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here use to be 8 or 9 buildings on poydras named after oil companies. They started leaving in the 90's going to Houston. Don't think there are any left.
They all left over taxes and poor schools (got this from an Exxon guy).
Albemarle was one of the most recent companies to move their corporate headquarters in 2016. The reason: poor infrastructure, poor airport, and a lack of good schools to attract an educated workforce.
It's been almost 30 years since the oil companies left, but it's still the same story in LA.
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:22 am to Mr.Perfect
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We just don’t have the infrastructure
Probably never will.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:22 am to Champagne
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You are really wasting your time thinking about La. government. La. isn't going to improve. If you don't like it, you aren't going to be able to change it, so it's futile thinking about it. Even more futile to discuss it.
yep
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:22 am to Machine
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legalize weed and sports betting would be a good start
hell legalize all vices and lets compete with vegas
But that would invite in all sorts of terrible people and we could lead the nation in murders!
Oh wait...
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:24 am to Machine
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legalize weed and sports betting would be a good start
hell legalize all vices and lets compete with vegas
I'm pro-both, but neither will improve LA.
No one gets it - it's a culture/people problem, not an infrastructure/tax problem.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:25 am to Damone
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Because crooked Louisiana politicians will shake them down for kickbacks or tax them into oblivion.
The work force in LA is part of the problem
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:26 am to doubleb
This is a micro and a macro issue. Local, state, and federal governments need to thing long term. TIFs are the key. Give TIFs to companies willing to relocate and recognize that you will not make money on the business itself, but the secondary and tertiary affects. Increased employment increases the tax base and spending, which increases revenues.
The TIFs the government is giving away, if utilized correctly, is money the government isn’t collecting anyway, so it’s a 0 sum game.
The TIFs the government is giving away, if utilized correctly, is money the government isn’t collecting anyway, so it’s a 0 sum game.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:27 am to Kino74
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One big problem is people here don't want to change. We have the mouth of the Mississippi river, ungodly amount of oil and gas yet lead the country in mostly the worst categories. Too much corruption, nepotism and outright stupidity kills us here.
Try cutting the government or consolidating schools and people lose their minds saying you can't do that or it won't work. Yet our neighbor Texas nails it and we stick our heads in the mud.
I had a friend whose old mom complained about how her two sons were trying to move to Houston. She also believed Hammond was big enough and didn't need anymore growth and one could get a job there. The concept of a better life is alien to some people accustomed to scraps.
Louisiana by just geography and natural resources should have massive wealth that would make Norway jealous yet here we are dirt broke and a welfare state.
ALLLLLLLL of this ^
Well put.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:27 am to Powerman
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The work force in LA is part of the problem
explain
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:28 am to cwill
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it's a culture/people problem
Well thats no fun, it has to be a political parties fault!*
*You are correct by the way.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:29 am to Powerman
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The work force in LA is part of the problem
It is a big part of the problem. But it's not an easy fix.
Give money to help educate disadvantaged citizens; you are throwing money at a problem so a lot of it will be wasted.
Give money to help educate those more likely to succeed and it's middle class welfare and you are helping to train Texas's workforce so a lot of that money is wasted.
And to raise this money in the first place you need to increase taxes which helps drive even more business and citizens from the state.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:30 am to doubleb
Keep this in mind half of LSU grads move to Texas. HALF. That is engineers, lawyers, and other highly productive young citizens taking their tax money elsewhere
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:30 am to Machine
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legalize weed and sports betting would be a good start
these are simple fixes that would do a world of good for the 2 biggest issues: Infrastructure and education.
Then, they can change TOPS to require that you stay in Louisiana for 10 years after graduating (that's to stop kids from staying in school to get their Masters
). the big question then would be how to stop politicians from lining their pockets...
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:31 am to crazyLSUstudent
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lawyers
idk about this one. Lots of money to be made in Louisiana, lol
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:03 am to doubleb
They need to stop tops.
You hit 18 yrs old you are an adult and should pay for your own education.
The big problem in Louisiana is our roads are horrible, corrupt politicians that cannot sell the advantages of relocating a business here, and k-12 education is horrible.
You hit 18 yrs old you are an adult and should pay for your own education.
The big problem in Louisiana is our roads are horrible, corrupt politicians that cannot sell the advantages of relocating a business here, and k-12 education is horrible.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:24 pm to jptiger2009
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these are simple fixes that would do a world of good for the 2 biggest issues: Infrastructure and education.
at you thinking any of that revenue would make it to infrastructure or education!
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:30 pm to CptRusty
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explain
the underclass is probably about half of our population. hell it may be over 50% these days
other than super low-level work (like auto manufacturing like i said earlier), what industry will look at our population and go "we can recruit people for our jobs in Louisiana!"?
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:30 pm to Lakeboy7
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Well thats no fun, it has to be a political parties fault!*
the underclass culture requires, and votes for, political systems that redistribute wealth to support their lifestyles
so it's both
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
If only we could elect again a governor like Bobby Jindal! 
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Companies in LA also can’t recruit talent to the state because the schools among other things are so shitty. So even homegrown enterprises are moving to TX just so they have a shot at top tier talent.
Folks, LA is the Guatemala of the US. Grab your kids and cross the Sabine before they build a wall!!!!
Folks, LA is the Guatemala of the US. Grab your kids and cross the Sabine before they build a wall!!!!
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 12:38 pm
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