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re: Kyle Rittenhouse- Jury Instructions/Closing Arguments

Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:54 pm to
He needs to start wrapping this up.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
12699 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:54 pm to
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Who are you?


Someone who knows that none of my law professors would have called this a "darn good closing." He has some zingers and good lines, but his delivery is not great, he's hoping around, and he just took a big gamble talking about burning down property.
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6286 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:54 pm to
Richards is right. I wouldnt have stuck around either after shooting Rosenbaum. If he wouldve stayed that mob would have killed KR
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6286 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

none of my law professors


Law student. That is why no one is taking you seriously.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:56 pm to
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none of my law professors
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21265 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:56 pm to
It isn't very smooth, but the facts are there.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:57 pm to
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Someone who knows that none of my law professors would have called this a "darn good closing."


Oh boy, you’ve never sat and hear law profs talk together have you?

He is giving a good systematic close that is sowing doubt about that state’s case. In other words, he’s tying the bow
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:57 pm to
hi Officer Bray
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:58 pm to
Richards is good at laying out the facts, but I think Chirafisi is a better salesman.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75079 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

Someone who knows that none of my law professors would have called this a "darn good closing." He has some zingers and good lines, but his delivery is not great, he's hoping around, and he just took a big gamble talking about burning down property.


student.

I'm not going to be too harsh because we have all been there, and granted my degree is in accounting, but I didn't know my arse from a home in the ground when I graduated.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:58 pm to
Very few of of my professors would know much about a closing. The practitioners that volunteered for trial and appellate advocacy knew 10x more.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79236 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:00 pm to
Called Binger a whiny defense lawyer
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
12699 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:00 pm to
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Law student. That is why no one is taking you seriously.


Why did you leave out the "would have" past tense? I promise I have litigated enough trials and delivered enough closing statements to know a good one from a bad one.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:01 pm to
The good thing is there should be no chance to rebut his closing.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18081 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:01 pm to
Does the jury deliberate right after closing arguments? Or is that happening tomorrow?
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:01 pm to
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Very few of of my professors would know much about a closing.


Mine did. I teach it. I mean it’s not a whole class but it is taught.

quote:

The practitioners


Quite a few of us practiced before teaching.
Posted by StPeteLSU
St Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2011
2017 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:01 pm to
Agree, Richards is hitting the points but would prefer more fire or charisma. But in the end it is self defense and it is a no brainer. It is all political
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:01 pm to
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The good thing is there should be no chance to rebut his closing.




Binger gets to try.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:01 pm to
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and delivered enough closing statements to know a good one from a bad one.


Now it's bad? Way to double down supposed counselor.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79236 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:02 pm to
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Does the jury deliberate right after closing arguments? Or is that happening tomorrow?


It'll be tomorrow.

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