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re: Kyle Rittenhouse- Jury Instructions/Closing Arguments
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:46 am to LSUGrrrl
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:46 am to LSUGrrrl
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That’s crazy that the prosecutor knew the gun barrel wasn’t short enough to warrant the charge but pressed forward with it anyway. Good dismissal of charge there. What a waste of time and money.
There was discussion about the interpretation of the statute, but it was very shaky grounds.
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:47 am to KosmoCramer
Is the judge trying to crawfish on the provocation issue? That would be huge.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:47 am to riccoar
I dont know how this provocation made it this far.
This is weak. No real evidence, and the evidence they have is too vague to act on and the provocation was to someone who the gun wasnt even pointed at?
This is weak. No real evidence, and the evidence they have is too vague to act on and the provocation was to someone who the gun wasnt even pointed at?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:47 am to KosmoCramer
is the whole provocation charge about to be thrown out?!
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:48 am to TDTOM
quote:
Is the judge trying to crawfish on the provocation issue? That would be huge.
RICHARDS... STAY THE frick OUT OF YOUR OWN WAY RIGHT NOW
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:48 am to TDTOM
quote:
Is the judge trying to crawfish on the provocation issue? That would be huge.
He will read the instruction, but he won't allow the prosecution to speculate.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:49 am to civiltiger07
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is the whole provocation charge about to be thrown out?!
Provocation was never a charge, it was a jury instruction.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:50 am to KosmoCramer
provocation jury instruction stays in
but getting the minor in possession of an illegal weapon charge thrown out is a HUGE win for Kyle
but getting the minor in possession of an illegal weapon charge thrown out is a HUGE win for Kyle
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 9:54 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:50 am to KosmoCramer
quote:
Provocation was never a charge, it was a jury instruction.
my bad, but it sounds like it will still be an instruction.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:51 am to civiltiger07
So the state has been calling Kyle a vigilante this entire time and the judge just asked how Rosenbaum became a vigilante when he saw Kyle pointing his rifle at Ziminsky and decided to chase Kyle.
The Prosecution are clowns!
The Prosecution are clowns!
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:51 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:not to mention that pussy zemeski didn't testify.
This is weak. No real evidence, and the evidence they have is too vague to act on and the provocation was to someone who the gun wasnt even pointed at?
that is COMPLETE overreach by the prosecution. where's the victim to testify?
oh right..prosecution knew they didnt want to open that pandora's box
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:52 am to ShockTroop
No, they are idiots.
Clowns are supposed to be funny.
Clowns are supposed to be funny.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:52 am to KosmoCramer
He really shouldnt allow it at all.
First, there's no evidence of it. The testimony was based on the video and the stills were based on the video. All of it is too grainy to interpret if it was raised or pointed at anyone specifically. Secondarily, can you even prove that Rosenbaum saw his point the gun at Ziminsky? Ziminsky didnt act on provocation - Rosenbaum allegedly did. He just happens to be the guy who had threatened to kill Kyle twice at that point.
First, there's no evidence of it. The testimony was based on the video and the stills were based on the video. All of it is too grainy to interpret if it was raised or pointed at anyone specifically. Secondarily, can you even prove that Rosenbaum saw his point the gun at Ziminsky? Ziminsky didnt act on provocation - Rosenbaum allegedly did. He just happens to be the guy who had threatened to kill Kyle twice at that point.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:53 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:ZAMINKSY ISN'T DEAD!!!!! Where the frick is he to tell the court about the gun being pointed at him?
First, there's no evidence of it.
bullshite.
there is no evidence here.
prosecution literally made this evidence up out of thin air 5 days into the trial when they think they found something on some grainy footage.
it should never have been allowed.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 9:55 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:53 am to CAD703X
The fact the judge mentioned Ziminsky not testifying was nice.
Illegally having gun as minor - Dismissed. Not having that on table for jury is huge.
Illegally having gun as minor - Dismissed. Not having that on table for jury is huge.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:55 am to RealDawg
Specifically told jury count 6 is gone (very helpful).
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:56 am to CAD703X
Zaminsky has legal issues and cant be relied on as a truthful witness. He's a liar, just like Gaige has proven making the media rounds after his testimony.
But are you surprised? The entirety of the left is still strutting around pretending that Kyle was a Klansmen out hunting negroes.
But are you surprised? The entirety of the left is still strutting around pretending that Kyle was a Klansmen out hunting negroes.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:57 am to RealDawg
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Illegally having gun as minor - Dismissed. Not having that on table for jury is huge.
Also, having it dismissed right now, is huge. It basically says that the court knows Kyle was legally carrying the firearm.
Huge.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:57 am to KosmoCramer
I just don't see how you get 12 people to agree either way.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:57 am to Vacherie Saint
If he was hunting them, he needs to check his eyesight. All three of the targets were whiter than mayo.
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