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re: Knowing what you know now, how did Floyd die?
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:05 pm to AMS
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:05 pm to AMS
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the amount of fentanyl measured in his blood (11ng) is lower than the lowest dose fentanyl patches (12ng).
not what I read...but then again who do we believe?
I see a man panicked, desperate, paranoid, crazy, under the influence, unable to obey simple orders,
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:05 pm to Brosef Stalin
Correct
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:06 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Having a 200 lb man leaning on his neck certainly had nothing to do with it.
actually 3 men on him
one knee to neck
how much pressure does it take to make someone tap out
have your tried it at home?
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:06 pm to ApexTiger
OD
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:09 pm to AMS
quote:
ure thing. I will disupute that.
this is false. his blood level showed lower amount (11ng) than the lowest dose of fentanyl that can be given (12ng). at the time of his death he had less than the lowest dose of fentanyl.
ok please post that report here
and the amount of meth he had?
what does your report say?
how do you explain his behavior?
please advise and I assume you took the time to watch the 1 hour worth of police video....
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:09 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
the amount of fentanyl measured in his blood (11ng) is lower than the lowest dose fentanyl patches (12ng).
not what I read...but then again who do we believe?
I see a man panicked, desperate, paranoid, crazy, under the influence, unable to obey simple orders,
none of those are signs of fentanyl overdose deaths. Extreme sedation is to comatose type levels, but he was giving 3 cops a rough go at the arrest so that is also at odds with fentanyl OD. maybe you should read the autopsy and lab values. IDK I would believe lab results and shite man.
does any of this change your mind? the fact that he had less than the lowest dose of fentanyl and his behavior is opposite of what would be expected?
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:10 pm to ApexTiger
He was a piece of shite felon and did himself in.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:12 pm to TigerAxeOK
quote:
Combination of knee to the neck and drug induced heart attack. Had he not been high and resisted, use of force would not have escalated and he'd be very much alive and probably out free on bail right now. They might end up getting the one cop on involuntary manslaughter, maybe, but the rest will walk if not all of them.
Probably Accurate.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:12 pm to AMS
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none of those are signs of fentanyl overdose deaths.
ah, so you're expert on this subject
good ..can you explain how victims who OD on Fentanyl typically act before they die?
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:13 pm to ApexTiger
Stupidity
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:14 pm to ApexTiger
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the toxicology report was said to be 3 times the amount of Fentenyl one can take and plan to live...
Yeah. That’s false.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:14 pm to AMS
quote:
his blood level showed lower amount (11ng) than the lowest dose of fentanyl that can be given (12ng). at the time of his death he had less than the lowest dose of fentanyl.
Floyd also suffered from heart disease. So what exactly is the proper dosage of methamphetamine to be taken in conjunction with fentanyl considering that medical condition?
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:15 pm to ApexTiger
Face down in the street with a cop kneeling on his neck for over 8 minutes.
What do I win?
What do I win?
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:15 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
how much pressure does it take to make someone tap out
This is a weird question.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:15 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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So what exactly is the proper dosage of methamphetamine to be taken in conjunction with fentanyl considering that medical condition?
If you want to OD, more than he took.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:21 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
ok please post that report here
and the amount of meth he had?
what does your report say?
how do you explain his behavior?
please advise and I assume you took the time to watch the 1 hour worth of police video....
LINK
theres a copy of the autopsy report and lab work.
11ng of fentanyl
19 ng of meth.
12 ng is the loweset dose of fentanyl.
methampheatmine " recreational abusing population is substantial (0.05-9.30 mg/L) but with a median concentration of 0.42 mg/L"
those are measurements of recreational meth use in MG (not NG which is 3 orders smaller). Floyd was measured in the NG.
LINK
so he had much less than recreational amount of meth and lower than the lowest dose of fentanyl in his blood. that plus the fact that his death was determined homicidal in nature dispel any notion of fatal OD drug levels.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:23 pm to ApexTiger
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good ..can you explain how victims who OD on Fentanyl typically act before they die?
1st hand experience and widely accepted knowledge of opiod overdoses. in my experience they are usually carried into the ER after being found in the parking lot or brought in by ambulance, all near comatose. none anywhere near capable of legitamately fending off 3 police.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:23 pm to the808bass
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If you want to OD, more than he took.
So again, what exactly is a healthy dosage of THC, meth and fentanyl for a man suffering from heart disease?
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:24 pm to AMS
From his autospy report
Floyd
NECK:
Layer by layer dissection of the anterior strap muscles of the neck discloses no areas of contusion or hemorrhage withinthe musculature. The thyroid cartilage and hyoid bone areintact. The larynx is lined by intact mucosa. The thyroid issymmetric and red-brown, without cystic or nodular change. Thetongue is free of bite marks, hemorrhage, or other injuries.The cervical spinal column is palpably stable and free ofhemorrhage.
Floyd
NECK:
Layer by layer dissection of the anterior strap muscles of the neck discloses no areas of contusion or hemorrhage withinthe musculature. The thyroid cartilage and hyoid bone areintact. The larynx is lined by intact mucosa. The thyroid issymmetric and red-brown, without cystic or nodular change. Thetongue is free of bite marks, hemorrhage, or other injuries.The cervical spinal column is palpably stable and free ofhemorrhage.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:24 pm to ApexTiger
OD. Homeboy was tripping balls, hard, on whatever he had taken.
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