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re: Kimmel's first amendment rights are not being violated.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:52 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:52 am to Vacherie Saint
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That's all well and good, but you cannot dance without a willing partner can you? The left is NEVER going to stop cancelling and being hypocrites about it. The right is tired of being polite and ready to fight back. We played this game for 30 years and lost. Enough is enough. People are getting killed, man.
I agree. But they certainly won't stop if we start playing tit for tat. This is just my opinion, but they way to combat this is to appoint federal judges to the district, appellate, and Supreme courts that will appropriately apply the first amendment to hold the left accountable.
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:54 am to Betavols1992
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Yeah so why are you running your tongue free speech doesent protect you from being fired so shut the hell up
It absolutely can and it has in the past. You can either read up on it and learn something new or remain ignorant. The choice is yours.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:54 am to RoosterCogburn585
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If your aunt had a dick she would be your uncle.
Not by today's definition.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:55 am to UpToPar
They wont stop either way. If you fight you have a chance. If you dont fight, you get eaten alive. When we finally nominated a fighter, we started winning. And now we are winning over young voters, minority voters, and moderates. The insanity of woke leftism is shriveling.
We are winning! Try to enjoy it.
We are winning! Try to enjoy it.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:56 am to Clames
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It seems the only ones making ignorant arguments here are those like you that assert the FCC was involved without any concrete proof and that their supposed involvement directly precipitated the preempting of Kimmel's show. Which is pretty hard to get behind given the speed at which this all happened, capitalism moves a hell of a lot faster than government bureaucracy after all.
I didn't assert the FCC was involved. I presented a hypothetical where there could be a first amendment violation IF the FCC was involved. It's too early to know for sure what the FCC's involvement was given that this all happened yesterday.
I hope the FCC was not involved at all.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:56 am to Tigers0918
You are an idiot. What's wrong, Dems don't like it when they get beat at their own game?
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:57 am to aTmTexas Dillo
quote:How will he know what's going on here since he is an Italian citizen.
He can blather on all he wants. Build a YouTube channel.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:58 am to Tigers0918
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The FCC directly threatened abc to fire him.
You have no factual evidence of this. It's what you want to believe. Is it possible? Yes, but your comment was not factual.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:58 am to Vacherie Saint
They'll stop if federal judges start enforcing constitutional protections. They won't have a choice.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:58 am to RoosterCogburn585
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:03 am to UpToPar
how is a federal judge going to stop ABC from firing Rosanne Barr or Fox from firing Tucker and Glenn Beck? You are missing the point. These aren't legal issues - they aren't even constitutional issues. Kimmel doesn't have the right to a late night talk show. These are private sector decisions.
Now excuse me as I dance on Jimmy Kimmel's grave.
Now excuse me as I dance on Jimmy Kimmel's grave.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:08 am to Vacherie Saint
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how is a federal judge going to stop ABC from firing Rosanne Barr or Fox from firing Tucker and Glenn Beck? You are missing the point. These aren't legal issues - they aren't even constitutional issues. Kimmel doesn't have the right to a late night talk show. These are private sector decisions.
If those firings were influenced by government actors then there's first amendment concerns. There's a thread on the first page with a tweet by Rosanne Barr suggesting that Obama called Iger to have her fired. If that's true, that implicates serious first amendment concerns. I'm not arguing that we (as a society) should not be fighting back by encouraging private businesses to denounce radical left wing ideas. I'm arguing that we should not be using government action to influence it.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:18 am to RoosterCogburn585
"Is he being arrested for his speech? Are there any legal repercussions for what he said?"
I don't know that the facts really are, but the idea/allegation is that the government, specifically the FCC, brought about the Kimmel firing. If true, that could implicate 1st Amendment concerns.
I don't know that the facts really are, but the idea/allegation is that the government, specifically the FCC, brought about the Kimmel firing. If true, that could implicate 1st Amendment concerns.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:21 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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You have no factual evidence of this. It's what you want to believe. Is it possible? Yes, but your comment was not factual.
Can't tell if you are being serious or not. The FCC commissioner is on video threatening abc to fire him. There is literally a video of him doing it and you are still trying to deny it?
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:35 am to Tigers0918
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Can't tell if you are being serious or not. The FCC commissioner is on video threatening abc to fire him. There is literally a video of him doing it and you are still trying to deny it?
Wrong. Here are his quotes.
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“We can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”
“We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” Carr said. “These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel …”
It was also said that Kimmel’s remarks “amounted to Kimmel being part of a concerted effort to lie to the American people about the nature of Kirk’s death.”
The FCC said ABC needs to find ways to change Kimmel's conduct That can mean several things like an apology, a suspension, or fire him as a last resort. The FCC never specified for ABC to fire him, so your comment wasn't factual.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 11:37 am
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:42 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
You quoted the threat yourself and you still don't believe the FCC threatened abc?
“We can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”
What do you think this is? I seriously can't believe you are pretending this isn't a threat. Actually, I know you know it is but are playing a game because you have to stand by trump no matter what is done.
“We can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”
What do you think this is? I seriously can't believe you are pretending this isn't a threat. Actually, I know you know it is but are playing a game because you have to stand by trump no matter what is done.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:45 am to Tigers0918
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You quoted the threat yourself and you still don't believe the FCC threatened abc?
“We can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”
What do you think this is? I seriously can't believe you are pretending this isn't a threat. Actually, I know you know it is but are playing a game because you have to stand by trump no matter what is done.
It was a threat, but it wasn't a threat for them to fire him. You said they threatened ABC to fire him and I said there's no factual evidence of that. What do you not understand?
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:47 am to RoosterCogburn585
Where was the outrage, from the left, when Rosanne Barr and Gina Carano fired? Free speech for me but not for thee?
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:57 am to UpToPar
Those are separate issues. Cancel culture rarely involves direct government involvement. And in those cases, legal recourse could be taken.
Otherwise companies are going to act in their own financial bests interests. You think Disney execs made this decision lightly? They almost certainly agree with everything Kimmel stands for. Me being happy about it doesn’t make me a cancel culture hypocrite.
Otherwise companies are going to act in their own financial bests interests. You think Disney execs made this decision lightly? They almost certainly agree with everything Kimmel stands for. Me being happy about it doesn’t make me a cancel culture hypocrite.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:00 pm to RoosterCogburn585
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Kimmel's first amendment rights are not being violated.
Correct. At the end of the day it's just survival of the fittest in the marketplace. His ratings sucked and ABC was probably looking for an excuse to get rid of him. Or Kimble himself sabotaged his career to retire early. Who knows?
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