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re: Kash responds to Candace Owens claims about Charlie Kirk
Posted on 12/7/25 at 6:28 pm to EphesianArmor
Posted on 12/7/25 at 6:28 pm to EphesianArmor
They will never tell us everything on Epstein, JFK, and CK shouldn't be any different.
Yet, people are okay with theories on Epstein and JFK.
Just NOT on CK.
Because Candace Owens...
Trump told us way back in 2016 to question your government and Deep State. Today it feels he is working with them.
Yet, people are okay with theories on Epstein and JFK.
Just NOT on CK.
Because Candace Owens...
Trump told us way back in 2016 to question your government and Deep State. Today it feels he is working with them.
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 6:34 pm to Errerrerrwere
Concur 100% with your assertions.
Bingo.
CO is being smeared and used as a convenient poison pill. That only happens when you're over the target. Such sustained flak tells us she's discovered smoke.
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people are okay with theories on Epstein and JFK.
Just NOT on CK.
Because Candace Owens..
Bingo.
CO is being smeared and used as a convenient poison pill. That only happens when you're over the target. Such sustained flak tells us she's discovered smoke.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 6:38 pm to EphesianArmor
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CO is being smeared and used as a convenient poison pill. That only happens when you're over the target. Such sustained flak tells us she's discovered smoke.
I don't know if she has anything or not. Or if she is just losing her damn mind.
I do find it suspicious that IF you speak out against a certain group; you are aggressively silenced and canceled. Also suspicious is Charlie's falling out before he was killed.
And even more suspicious is that we can't talk about it
OR
Question the government agencies that are running these investigations.
I would say a central theme in the original MAGA movement would be to question what the hell is wrong with our government and why they do what they do. And to be unapologetic about it.
Now, a faction of "MAGA" that never really was originally MAGA seems to have the President's ear and going after essential parts to the MAGA movement.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:02 pm to Errerrerrwere
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I don't know if she has anything or not. Or if she is just losing her damn mind.
She'd connected some dots early on; found some odd, inexplicable consistencies. And THEN, mysteriously (my understanding) she was targeted by hoaxers and harassers.
Remember -- CO is under extreme pressure. She's taken on the very powerful head on-- the French transformer, Izzy, and challenged the entire CK narrative. (which may or may not implicate certain entities) I think she's spread herself thin. Fwiw I do not listen to her podcast.
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I do find it suspicious that IF you speak out against a certain group; you are aggressively silenced and canceled. Also suspicious is Charlie's falling out before he was killed.
And even more suspicious is that we can't talk about it
All very true. And disturbing. Why shouldn't questions be asked?
We are being told in no uncertain terms to "JUST SHUT UP!!" This only means something big or evil is being hidden or locked down.
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OR
Question the government agencies that are running these investigations.
The party-people especially HATE when the integrity, honesty and motives of their regime's enforcers are questioned. Again -- the "DON'T QUESTION US, JUST TAKE OUR WORD FOR IT!" command just doesn't work anymore.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:15 pm to EphesianArmor
Personally, I don't think it's the Deep State or the Joos that killed Charlie Kirk.
I think it was an inside job. And if you do a deep dive into Jake Hoffman, 1TenLLC, and Tyler Boyer why a 501(c) is sending 1.5M to a parking lot and a missing 8.5M that went missing.
8 days before Charlie died he ordered a DOGE type audit of the financials and hired a new COO to take Boyer's place.
If I know this; I'm certain Candace does too and has more information on that than anyone.
I believe she's blowing this up and making wild accusations about crazy shite to keep it in the headlines instead of going out right and saying it on air.
But there is some fishy things with shell corporations, paying receptionists 300k/ year, and everyone at TPUSA making huge gobs of money. And Charlie was on to it after he got home from the campaign trail when Trump won the election.
But the idiots on this board that do no research and have not the brain activity to look at it appropriately will just yell "GRIFTER" and "MAGA."
This goes far deep into the GOP establishment in Arizona and DC.
I think it was an inside job. And if you do a deep dive into Jake Hoffman, 1TenLLC, and Tyler Boyer why a 501(c) is sending 1.5M to a parking lot and a missing 8.5M that went missing.
8 days before Charlie died he ordered a DOGE type audit of the financials and hired a new COO to take Boyer's place.
If I know this; I'm certain Candace does too and has more information on that than anyone.
I believe she's blowing this up and making wild accusations about crazy shite to keep it in the headlines instead of going out right and saying it on air.
But there is some fishy things with shell corporations, paying receptionists 300k/ year, and everyone at TPUSA making huge gobs of money. And Charlie was on to it after he got home from the campaign trail when Trump won the election.
But the idiots on this board that do no research and have not the brain activity to look at it appropriately will just yell "GRIFTER" and "MAGA."
This goes far deep into the GOP establishment in Arizona and DC.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:32 pm to Errerrerrwere
There is a theory that CK was "transitioned" out of his org for becoming "too independent." ;-) Where ever that may be.
It's possible. But this just seems bigger then we can imagine. Big Money usually drives all these adverse traumatizing events. But also power and control. No one is going to ever get the truth o the matter on this one either.
I think you're right on both counts.
Interesting. No one seems to want to discuss this.
Yup. The default laziness and name-calling as a first/only response on this subject are disappointing more than anything else; As to the GOPe pod-people, they are skimmer and scammer vampires far more than principled ideological warriors.
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I think it was an inside job. And if you do a deep dive into Jake Hoffman, 1TenLLC, and Tyler Boyer why a 501(c) is sending 1.5M to a parking lot and a missing 8.5M that went missing.
It's possible. But this just seems bigger then we can imagine. Big Money usually drives all these adverse traumatizing events. But also power and control. No one is going to ever get the truth o the matter on this one either.
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If I know this; I'm certain Candace does too and has more information on that than anyone.
I believe she's blowing this up and making wild accusations about crazy shite to keep it in the headlines instead of going out right and saying it on air.
I think you're right on both counts.
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there is some fishy things with shell corporations, paying receptionists 300k/ year, and everyone at TPUSA making huge gobs of money. And Charlie was on to it after he got home from the campaign trail when Trump won the election.
Interesting. No one seems to want to discuss this.
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But the idiots on this board that do no research and have not the brain activity to look at it appropriately will just yell "GRIFTER" and "MAGA."
This goes far deep into the GOP establishment in Arizona and DC.
Yup. The default laziness and name-calling as a first/only response on this subject are disappointing more than anything else; As to the GOPe pod-people, they are skimmer and scammer vampires far more than principled ideological warriors.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:10 pm to EphesianArmor
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More: -- Immediate desecration of an active crime-scene. People casually walking around an un-taped off tent area as though they were wrapping up a carnival event -- ZERO video shared from the back camera (or any other camera angle except unfocused vid from "onlookers") -- Entire crime scene was immediately paved over -- CK jumped on immediately by his entourage, falling back into a pit of sorts. Then "CK" (?) was wisked away like a sack of potatoes and shoved into a black SUV -- CK's "Pastor" has an interesting military employment history -- Yes, the wife. Where would we start?? Terrible actress. -- CK was popular. But so popular that US Presidents, foreign Presidents, VPs, Tucker, CO, and nearly every single podcaster and "influencer" were friendly with him? -- Funeral seemed to be a too carefully choreographed over-the-top Hollywood production -- CK's recent Izreal-influence issue, opinion, and fear of "offending" was conspicuous.
All of these “suspicious” things are silly except that one.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:38 pm to Penrod
I don't think anyone should be looking at what happened that day as much as what's happening financially behind the scenes at TPUSA.
That's where the gun is.
Not Robinson's bag.
That's where the gun is.
Not Robinson's bag.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:00 pm to Errerrerrwere
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what's happening financially behind the scenes at TPUSA.
What is it? Or what's suspected?
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:13 pm to SirWinston
Bro, Nick Fuentes is not on the right. I don't care what he, the Democrats or his followers say. He is not a conservative.
Resume your regular activities.....
Resume your regular activities.....
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:14 pm to Da #1 Stunna
You may be right. But he is America First.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:25 pm to David_DJS
Here's the video where he actually goes to the physical addresses and scoops them out. There really is a bunch of red flags to their financials.
But you, of course, need government agencies like the IRS and FBI to investigate them. A lot of it is public since it's a non profit; and that's where this account has been getting the information.
YouTube
But you, of course, need government agencies like the IRS and FBI to investigate them. A lot of it is public since it's a non profit; and that's where this account has been getting the information.
YouTube
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:55 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Here's the video where he actually goes to the physical addresses and scoops them out. There really is a bunch of red flags to their financials.
But you, of course, need government agencies like the IRS and FBI to investigate them. A lot of it is public since it's a non profit; and that's where this account has been getting the information.
This wolvesoffinance guy is either genuinely ignorant or being disingenuous.
The address that Boyer, Hoffman and their companies list is a UPS store PO Box. That isn't unusual for public filing of small/often home-based businesses. And that he mentioned a grocery store and a few others, but not the UPS store may indicate he's more disingenuous than ignorant.
The only thing noteworthy in his reporting is that as TPUSE brought in huge sums of cash for its political operations, it paid its top people really well. I could understand some people not being a fan of that, but it's pretty typical for a (north of) $100 million per year organization to pay its top people hundreds of thousands in salaries.
ETA - I don't think Kirk hid the fact that he started off with nothing but became very wealthy with the success of TPUSA.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 12/7/25 at 11:27 pm to David_DJS
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This wolvesoffinance guy is either genuinely ignorant or being disingenuous.
He's a CPA that has actually done the investigation into the finances. So, saying he's ignorant is what's actually disingenuous.
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The address that Boyer, Hoffman and their companies list is a UPS store PO Box. That isn't unusual for public filing of small/often home-based businesses. And that he mentioned a grocery store and a few others, but not the UPS store may indicate he's more disingenuous than ignorant.
No it isn't. 18521 E Queen Creek Rd is what they used to file the documents with the IRS. So, the official documents didn't have the PO Box.
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The only thing noteworthy in his reporting is that as TPUSE brought in huge sums of cash for its political operations, it paid its top people really well. I could understand some people not being a fan of that, but it's pretty typical for a (north of) $100 million per year organization to pay its top people hundreds of thousands in salaries.
Yeah. The revenue trends between the 2 companies, TPUSA and Turning point Action aren't noteworthy. Where TPUSA showed the normal 4% revenue growth trend in fiscal year 2024 and Turning Point Action showed a 150% growth trend in its revenue.
The argument for political operations would make sense for TPUSA except the 8.5M went to Turning Point Action. A shell company with a history of ZERO employees.
Even more not noteworthy, according to you, is that Turning Point Action all of a sudden in fiscal year 2024 had 24 employees to pay for half that 8.5M that was paid by TPUSA and not run by Charlie. All while Trump was winning the GOP primary and big time donors were coming and going.
The 100 million dollar head fake you threw out there is also irrelevant considering the problem that is arising is from his shell company Turning Point Action. Yes, TPUSA is a 100M organization. Turning Point Action is not.
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ETA - I don't think Kirk hid the fact that he started off with nothing but became very wealthy with the success of TPUSA.
I appreciate the edited head fake, as well. Considering AGAIN nobody is talking about the amount of success, money and revenue TPUSA and Charlie Kirk had with their organization.
AGAIN, the problem is with the amount of money and revenue Turning Point Action and Tyler Bowyer had in the fiscal year 2024 (specifically the months in the election cycle) and where that went.
And, of course, Charlie letting Tyler Bowyer go and demanding a DOGE type audit of TPUSA 8 days before he was assassinated.
Good talk. Thanks.
ETA Forgot to add the 18521 E Queen Creek Rd address was what was filed to the IRS as the address to the Independent contractor that was paid that money from Turning Point Action. That independent contractor name is 1TenLLC.
Oh...and 1TenLLC is owned by none other, Tyler Bowyer.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:19 pm to Errerrerrwere
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No it isn't. 18521 E Queen Creek Rd is what they used to file the documents with the IRS. So, the official documents didn't have the PO Box.
18521 E Queen Creek Rd, STE 105-503 is what's listed.
That is box #503 at the UPS store, which is located at 18521 E Queen Creek Rd STE 105.
So my point is a real one. Either this CPA is ignorant about how to read this address or disingenuous. The fact that a) it's not rocket science and b) he didn't mention that STE 105 was a UPS Store, while mentioning the grocery store and a few other tenants, IMO indicates he's playing a game for clicks.
ETA - how could a legit CPA "investigating" this pull up to that building, see Suite #105 was a USP store, and not (at the very least) think, "hmm, I'm going to go inside and ask someone what the "503" stands for."
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The argument for political operations would make sense for TPUSA except the 8.5M went to Turning Point Action. A shell company with a history of ZERO employees.
Trying to follow your argument. Are you suggesting Kirk set up a shell company (TP Action) to do....what?
TP Action is the political arm of Kirk's companies. It is registered as a 501(c)(4), which means, unlike TP USA, it can engage in political work like lobbying and election-related spending. Are you suggesting that's not what it is but rather some fraudulent "shell company"? (honest question, trying to follow your argument)
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:52 pm to EphesianArmor
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How do you know for sure there IS a "shooter"?
Sounds like you have a theory. You should present it. You won’t. Because, like most conspiracy theorists, you’re an intellectual pussy who presents nothing but questions.
How was it determined by observers within seconds that the caliber round was "30 OTT"?
Link?
Why ZERO blood-splatter within the booth? (and none on CK's white shirt.)
I haven’t seen the shooting. Not starting today.
You’re applying general principles to a specific instance and assuming that the general principles should always exist. “When people get shot, there should be blood spatter visible on the video that I saw.”
This is both dumb and lazy.
If you have a theory, tell us.
What of the immediate and casual lingering contamination by passerbys of the crime scene?
What of it? Do you have a theory you’d like to advance that doesn’t involve government incompetence?
Why wasn't it locked down ASAP and taped off by State Police? (SOME-body also ordered the site paved OVER it within weeks.) Odd, no? Where is the video taken by the video cam in BACK of CK and the entourage?
Good question. Do you think it got deleted? Is it possible it still exists and will be part of the evidence presented at trial?
Did you know a reservation for the funeral venue was made months in advance??
The arena was pre-booked for a Charlie Kirk funeral? Of course not. Tell us more.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:01 pm to David_DJS
I'm appreciating y'all's dialog. Illuminating.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 1:51 pm to David_DJS
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So my point is a real one. Either this CPA is ignorant about how to read this address or disingenuous. The fact that a) it's not rocket science and b) he didn't mention that STE 105 was a UPS Store, while mentioning the grocery store and a few other tenants, IMO indicates he's playing a game for clicks.
Which is another false statement. He went physically to the address. So, they're either working out of the Publix Grocery Store OR the fricking Panda Express dude. So, all this really tells me is you didn't watch all of the videos and you come into this thread with the misconception that you actually know tiddly dick about the subject matter.
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Trying to follow your argument. Are you suggesting Kirk set up a shell company (TP Action) to do....what?
It is indeed a shell company. To counter your argument from before- this is "common" with 100M dollar organizations.
It's pretty oblivious what his former COO was using it for. And that's to funnel money to his independent contractor company -1TenLLC.
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Are you suggesting that's not what it is but rather some fraudulent "shell company"? (honest question, trying to follow your argument)
That's exactly what the frick I'm saying and an investigation needs to be done on his former COO, who Charlie let go after he announced a DOGE type audit and made the 8.5M payment to the company he owned.
All of this is in the memo, which Charlie wrote.
frick out of here with your irrelevant bullshite. Never once dude you mention anything valid to back up your stupid argument.
Go breathe through your mouth old man.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 2:26 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Which is another false statement. He went physically to the address. So, they're either working out of the Publix Grocery Store OR the fricking Panda Express dude.
FFS - I live here, dumbass. Queen Creek. I'm familiar with the strip mall. There is a UPS Store in it. Why not google this shite rather than believe some guy making money off your clicks?
The f'n UPS Store you don't think exists
Do you see the f'n address?
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So, all this really tells me is you didn't watch all of the videos and you come into this thread with the misconception that you actually know tiddly dick about the subject matter
lmao
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All of this is in the memo, which Charlie wrote.
Link the memo.
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frick out of here with your irrelevant bullshite. Never once dude you mention anything valid to back up your stupid argument.
Yeah, tell us more about the phantom business being run from the Panda Express.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 2:27 pm
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