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re: Karnelo Anthony is being Charged as Adult under Texas State Law

Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467646 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:05 pm to
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Exactly, you prove my point.

There is never true justice anymore.

Best case scenario is not even close to true justice.


So you want to eliminate appeals in criminal law?

You do realize Trump is currently appealing a criminal conviction, right?
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
2303 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:16 pm to
You going to defend him in court?

You know you want to.

From what you know about this case in the media, what lawyer would want to take it up???
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467646 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

You going to defend him in court?

You know you want to.

Naw. It's not my style.

quote:

From what you know about this case in the media, what lawyer would want to take it up???

Plenty.

You can charge something insane like $500k-1M. The publicity will be worth $10-20M. If you can pull it off, you're basically a celebrity lawyer who can print 7 figures a year and get an 8-figure book deal without having to really work again
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
2303 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:31 pm to
I get the the money, publicity and fame but for you lawyers there is one big question you scum bags seem to forget.

Morals. Sell your soul for fame, glory and a monetary pay off.

Scummy if you ask me. You do you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467646 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:35 pm to
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but for you lawyers there is one big question you scum bags seem to forget.

Morals.


A trial isn't a judgment of morality, or even the truth.

It's a competition of evidence and argument. The state has a burden to use evidence and argument to prove their assertions beyond a reasonable doubt to 12 people. The defense is retained to ensure they meet that standard.

This is not a modern paradigm. It's been some version of this system for thousands of years. Predating even Rome and ancient Greece.

And, as I've explained many times on here, the system is often most tested with very unsavory people, because that's the only real opportunities to test the system. Not only is the State more likely to break the rules with a guilty person, but your population cohort within the system of guilty (or just bad, if you want to look to a designation outside of the system) people is exponentially higher than the alternatives.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10737 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:43 pm to
I'm never a fan of calling someone something they are not.
He could not buy beer or cigarettes because he is not an adult.

I am not wanting a lighter sentence for him, it's just that words matter to me.
Boys are boys , girls are girls, adults are adults and minors are minors
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
59048 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:44 pm to
Baton Rouge’s finest
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
2303 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:46 pm to
Don't give me that legal bullshite. YOU of all people know what is wrong and what is right.

If you defend a person that is obviously guilty for fame and fortune you are a scumbag.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467646 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

Don't give me that legal bullshite.

I thought we were talking about a prosecution/trial and lawyers?

quote:

YOU of all people know what is wrong and what is right.

I already told you that this is not my style. Don't impute me explaining the system to me, personally.

I don't do high profile intentionally.

quote:

If you defend a person that is obviously guilty for fame and fortune you are a scumbag.

My last case that almost went high profile (it could have become one of those national-racial stories) ended up in a dismissal prior to trial. The family of the purported victim would tell you it was a case where my client was "obviously guilty" as he hit the purported victim, who did die thereafter. There was no dispute about that.

In fact, one of the close family members was a mayor of a town within a short radius and he DID try to make that argument (and make the case into a thing).

Now, I will say my client was the white guy in the scenario and the decedent was black, so had that case broken out into a big deal publicity-wise, this forum would have had my back, no doubt.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:56 pm to
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My post was wishful thinking, but my gut says you’re right.

I just really hope this doesn’t happen. He’s clearly guilty and he will be rightfully convicted.
For the sake of black Americans, they better hope they don't.

Firstly, because this murderer being found not guilty (or guilty, doesn't matter on whether or not they riot), along with the payout would put a money bag over every white child's head which would enrage white Americans who've even an ounce of dignity and sense of self-preservation for they and their loved ones.

Secondly, couple that scenario with the almost certain event that they'll riot and black Americans will effectively seal their fate into the foreseeable future in this country.

People are sick and f'ing tired of it. Just sick with fatigue. It will turn violent in due time, and it won't be blacks who come out on the better end. They can't absolve this man of this murder. They absolutely cannot do it.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6312 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 6:04 pm to
I’ve pointed this out elsewhere. Even Ben Crump knows this case is a loser and he’s retarded.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83269 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 7:39 pm to
Honestly I don’t think there’ll be riots. No white cop was involved and the person killed was the white kid. And the trial won’t be for a long time.
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
2303 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 8:03 pm to
I get where you are coming from, everyone needs legal council but to volunteer for the shite show and your own conscience is not normal.


PM me, I need an attorney on speed dial.... You sound right up my alley.
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
1808 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 8:06 pm to
Hell yeah. Fire up Ole’ Sparky.
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
1808 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 8:10 pm to
He threatened Austin Metcalf prior to altercation. Self defense flies out the window.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20496 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 8:11 pm to
Is Ben Crump there yet?

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125736 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

I'm never a fan of calling someone something they are not. He could not buy beer or cigarettes because he is not an adult.


Texas law disagrees.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22466 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

There will definitely be riots if he's found guilty.


Good chance. Some of the rioters will be hired and staged.

But it's Texas. There should also be some arrests and prosecutions.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17732 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 10:01 pm to
Is there any doubt that this POS should get the death penalty?
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17732 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

If you defend a person that is obviously guilty for fame and fortune you are a scumbag.


Think about who you're conversing with.
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