re: Kamala Voters* - Explain to Me*

Let me break it down in its simplest terms: flooding the nation with uneducated, non skilled labor puts a drain on welfare and infrastructure which necessitates increased additional spending on top of too much spending. That spending by governments floods the market with additional currency which in turn drives up the deficit. Add on top of that “free” college tuition and you won’t need anyone to describe inflation to you. You will be living it everyday as will every other American. Throw increased pressure on healthcare and life for the average American becomes nearly untenable, but you keep pretending it’s corporate greed like the rest of the mindless dolts.

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I'm voting Kamala for the same reason I voted Joe in 2020. They're not Trump. I don't respect the man or his mannerisms. He's the absolute antithesis of ANYTHING Christian, or presidential, or patriarchal.

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Agreed x 1000 .


And if i do in fact wind up voting for Kamala in a few months, it will be for the exact reasons you listed more than anything else.. cue the ‘orange man bad’ and ‘omg mean tweets !!!’ .. responses- but y’all know it’s true .

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So you’re curious about something you have no knowledge of and expect other people to spoon feed you information about it?

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You are the one claiming its well documented not me

But Its obvious you have no idea what it is either. CNN told you so you regurgitate it like an npc

You link yahoo via fortune which is was totally shocking and of course the link to the study from these highly esteemed think tanks no longer exists

Thats shocking

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A joint study by think tanks IPPR and Common Wealth found profiteering by some of the world’s biggest companies forced prices up significantly higher than costs during 2022.

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Let me break it down in its simplest terms: flooding the nation with uneducated, non skilled labor puts a drain on welfare and infrastructure which necessitates increased additional spending on top of too much spending. That spending by governments floods the market with additional currency which in turn drives up the deficit. Add on top of that “free” college tuition and you won’t need anyone to describe inflation to you. You will be living it everyday as will every other American. Throw increased pressure on healthcare and life for the average American becomes nearly untenable, but you keep pretending it’s corporate greed like the rest of the mindless dolts.

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Ok great, if that is the case then please explain to me why there is also historic, out of control inflation in Australia, in South America, in Asia, in Europe and most, if not all, other countries and continents , literally all over the planet, at the moment.. and please for the love of god, be specific .

You refuse to do your own research, then complain when the link provided by someone else’s google search doesn’t meet your standards. Interesting strategy. I’m sure you dissertation would be equally impressive.

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If those are truly your main political concerns then you can’t be helped. Those are trivial and childish

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You've made no effort to uncover what my political concerns are and I didn't specify what they are so it's interesting to see you somehow know my political concerns.

I was asked to convince someone to vote for Kamala, not what my political concerns were.

In any case, every concern can be trivial to someone else.

Inflation, immigration, and being able to feed one’s family aren’t “trivial”. Appearing presidential or personality traits are absolutely trivial and silly

So if the Democrats take control of the legislature and White House, and ram through very consequential legislation then that is presidential? Having no opposition or dissent is a recipe for disaster and the fact Trump got pushback is more of an indication of him changing politics as usual as opposed to one’s perception of leadership

We all have our trusted sources for information, I get it. But the “greedflation” article you link is based on a joint study of IPPR and Common Wealth. So while I don’t wholly disregard it, for me I don’t put a ton of stock in it.

I’m not implying inflation is because of Joe Biden the man. It’s his party’s policies that have wrecked the economy. I know certain levels of inflation exist in spite of leadership and are impacted by all sorts of external factors. But the so-called Inflation Reduction Act only increased inflation because of BS green energy pet projects and other hidden agendas. If I’m being fair the Republicans helped pass the legislation, so piss on those guys who did.

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Have you been personally affected by any of this? This reads like outrage porn by the media to get your attention/clicks.

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Not all of the bad policies I cited have directly hit me yet - at least not in the realm you seem to be limiting it to. But as a parent it is personal to have to be concerned that my kid comes home from school with Gender Queer on his required reading list - especially if the wrong party is in control of ongoing policy.

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Coincidentally, my family was deeply impacted by the opioid epidemic fueled by our own government. I’m sure there are immigrants running drugs but I seriously doubt they can do more damage than our own government continues to do to our population.

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I’m sorry to know your family has been negatively impacted by drugs. It’s well documented that the fentanyl crisis is in large part due to immigration and is coming across the Southern border. You say you doubt immigrants running drugs can do more damage than our own government continues to do to our population - that’s kind of my point. Our own government is doing the damage due to its poor policies on things like immigration.

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Seems like you’re eating up everything the media is selling you without really thinking about their claims.

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Eating up everything the “media” tells me? If that were the case I’d be RUNNING to the polls to vote Democrat!

To the contrary. I can sit right here on my couch without the need to turn on a tv and listen to any talking head to form my conclusions.

I’m no financial expert, but I feel the prices of groceries and gas. I see our current government passed an Inflation Reduction Act they said would solve the problem. Instead prices have only increased. So I can’t trust their policies there.

I can tell you I directly oppose their policies that support trans ideology and don’t want it forced on me and my kids.

I don’t support the policy to ignore existing federal law as it relates to immigration. I don’t think it’s fair to me as a taxpayer to contribute to the costs of taking care of immigrants here who have not followed the law and procedures to become a U.S. citizen legally. And I have no idea who these people are, where they’re from, if they’re looking for a new life or if they’re here to crash a plane into the Capitol.

I don’t know anything about you, and I don’t mean anything contentiously or personally- I really don’t. But I wonder how old you are, whether you have kids, what your financial situation is. You may be a 51 year old Dad and Grandpa just like me. We may be very similarly situated, just with opposite beliefs. If so fair enough.

My guess would be that you are a young guy, unmarried or married with no children, and you have a little money in your pocket. Because that’s what I would expect if I’m trying to understand the disjoint.

Why do I say that? Because your position is that no matter who’s in office our daily lives aren’t really impacted. That’s how I once felt - when I was young, single, childless, though unfortunately I had little money in my pocket. But at this stage of my life while I worry about daily direct impacts I’m much more focused on a bigger picture. And depending on which policies are in place the picture either looks better or worse - for my kids and grandkids. THAT impacts me daily and directly between my ears. It worries me and scares me. What are my kids’ lives going to be like when I’m dead and gone if I don’t push back, because everything is fine today?

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You're not going to like my answer, because in your hypothetical it wouldn't do anything to convince you or sway your opinion.

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Hey, man, I respect you stepping up. And you’re right, I’m not going to be swayed or change my beliefs. I’ve developed my beliefs over time and am firm. Just as you appear to be. It’s ok we don’t agree.

But by you responding I learned that for you Trump puts you off on more of a personal level. That’s the goal of the thread, to learn and understand why not everyone sees things like me. Thank you.