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re: Kamala calls for ending 1099 employment and banning states from having right to work laws

Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:24 am to
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
22590 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:24 am to
If we want more things made in America this is the exact opposite thing to do.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4656 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:30 am to
My daughter is BCBA. My other is allied health. Insurance has really screwed things up. For the clients and professionals.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56187 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:31 am to
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And still, so many small business owners will blindly vote for her. Fricking blows my mind.


In a construction industry, I know very few liberal voters
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467560 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:34 am to
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It should never pass

Well I don't know how we will look in 20 years, especially if right-populism continues to gain traction. Developing the economic policies and demographic changes of MAGA over a few decades and they will be the ones proposing laws like this eventually.

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It already failed, yet they'll keep trying.

They only tried once

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What idiot, in their right mind, would be for this?

I don't think you understand how close this is to MAGA's populism and targeting of union workers in the Rust Belt. It's like 1-2 steps away.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:38 am to
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I don't think you understand how close this is to MAGA's populism and targeting of union workers in the Rust Belt. It's like 1-2 steps away.

Yup. I work with construction trades and the 1099 issue is near and dear to them.

This board won't like this, but right-to-work laws are dumb. Unless it's a construction contractor who signs an agreement without a union vote, there is already a vote to be union/non-union. Right-to-work just sort of gives another bite at the apple and allows guys to freeload off of the union representation they get. Plus, employees can opt-out of paying "non-core" dues, even without a right-to-work law.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125705 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:39 am to
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We are able to cut this wait by hiring clinical psychologists on 1099 contracts and paying for the eval in full....cutting a 2 year wait for services down to a month.


Marxism can’t create.
It can only destroy.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60272 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:41 am to
Your post is all over the place.

Kamala’s MAGA now? Yet, Trump doesn't support the pro-act?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:42 am to
I do think that Trump flirting with blue-collar union baws is an interesting dynamic when most of the right hates unions.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85466 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:45 am to
The low information Dem crowd won’t even bother to take 2 minutes to understand what that means. They will just stand, clap and yell “ yay” like good little NPC’s.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467560 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:46 am to
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Your post is all over the place.

No, it's not.

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Kamala’s MAGA now?

More like MAGA has always relied on leftist economics, especially tied to promoting union labor in the Rust Belt.

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Trump doesn't support the pro-act?

Where did I mention Trump?

If MAGA stays around, as it relies more on populism it will move further left economically.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4761 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:48 am to
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This board won't like this, but right-to-work laws are dumb.


Lmao. You must be confused, or you simply have no clue what you’re talking about.

Try being merit-shop contractor (ie. Non-union contractor) based in, say, Alabama and go work in a state like Minnesota. And all of a sudden, there is a vote on whether or not to be a union on your job in Minnesota that could affect the rest of your operations.

Right to work laws exist to protect non-union companies. Period.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467560 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:48 am to
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I do think that Trump flirting with blue-collar union baws is an interesting dynamic when most of the right hates unions.


It's the side of the family we don't talk about on here
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125705 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:48 am to
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when most of the right hates unions.


The right hates that unions support Democrats. Especially the populist right. They will dangle carrots (see Josh Hawley) to try to bring the workers to their side.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467560 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:50 am to
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Lmao. You must be confused, or you simply have no clue what you’re talking about.


I'm pretty sure Bunk works in the area of labor/employment law in Biglaw in a Midwest city.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:50 am to
But, if you lost that vote, now your company has to bargain with union. The right to work aspect just allows these guys to opt out of paying dues now.

My position on this is limited to private companies, though. Public unions are strange to me, and this is coming from the son of a teacher.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94112 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:51 am to
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do think that Trump flirting with blue-collar union baws is an interesting dynamic when most of the right hates unions.


Why would a Dem flirting with Union baws be surprising to you?

Orange is trying to win.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467560 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:51 am to
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The right hates that unions support Democrats.

This may be a regional thing, but in the South, the political association has nothing to do with it. The Southern economic conservative typically sees unions as the economic enemy. The political part is lagniappe.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162985 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:51 am to
the teachers union got billions from covid they kept. they had lobbyists to keep the schools closed. when did they use the covid monies?

also: since when did the entire nation started feeding children breakfast and lunch? even in the summer during summer rec? I get the reduced lunch fees based on income, or free lunch. did covid inspire free breakfast lunch and aftercare dinner?

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125705 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:53 am to
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The right to work aspect just allows these guys to opt out of paying dues now.


This is Josh Hawley’s recent position. I say recent because I don’t recall him saying it before this year.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:53 am to
Orange walks a fine line when talking to those guys. He can't say too much about being pro-labor, so he usually says if you vote Dem, you'll be out of a job.
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