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Just let these gun violence statistics sink in a minute.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:28 am
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:28 am
EXCELLENT! STATS ON GUN VIOLENCE Interesting statistics! This jives with the research of Prof. Lott at the University of Chicago, who is a noted expert on gun laws and stats.
There are 30,000 gun related death s per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:
65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws.
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified.
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence.
3% are accidental discharge deaths.
So technically, “gun violence” is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.
This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.
Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So, if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.
Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assaults are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.
But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).
Now it gets good:
200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical error s. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!
710,000 people die per year from heart disease . It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So, what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.).
A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ……………. Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions! So, you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns?
It’s pretty simple:
Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.
Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs . So, the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed.”
There are 30,000 gun related death s per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:
65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws.
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified.
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence.
3% are accidental discharge deaths.
So technically, “gun violence” is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.
This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.
Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So, if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.
Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assaults are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.
But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).
Now it gets good:
200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical error s. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!
710,000 people die per year from heart disease . It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So, what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.).
A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ……………. Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions! So, you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns?
It’s pretty simple:
Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.
Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs . So, the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed.”
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:32 am to coachcrisp
Now do deaths by the big scary AR
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:35 am to Pelican fan99
It's something like 250 deaths per year.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:35 am to coachcrisp
Problem with your post is it contains real facts and truth. For a liberal that's like placing a vampire in direct sunlight man.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:37 am to coachcrisp
Yet, they will still run with "common sense gun laws"
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:38 am to coachcrisp
Stats are king. Well done OP
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:40 am to coachcrisp
I like how you took the effort to break all these important statistics down for comparison.
Regardless of how many people are killed by unhinged, mentally unstable mass murders the goal of the pro big government leftists is to wrest power from the individual and give it to the ruling elites........then the ruling elites would retain all their weapons to keep the 2A patriots in check.
Regardless of how many people are killed by unhinged, mentally unstable mass murders the goal of the pro big government leftists is to wrest power from the individual and give it to the ruling elites........then the ruling elites would retain all their weapons to keep the 2A patriots in check.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:41 am to coachcrisp
Information is dangerous. We need common sense censorship.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:43 am to coachcrisp
quote:
This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.
Good OP.
But Alabama had only 1?? Find that really hard to believe.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:43 am to coachcrisp
Pulling up and oldie but a goodie..
BamaAtl:Nu Uh, guns are bad, mmkay? We just need to ban them. I've done the research, and you don't understand what the statistics you are quoting actually mean. Y'all are wrong.
BamaAtl:Nu Uh, guns are bad, mmkay? We just need to ban them. I've done the research, and you don't understand what the statistics you are quoting actually mean. Y'all are wrong.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 9:44 am
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:44 am to coachcrisp
quote:
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities.
4 very librul cities.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:51 am to coachcrisp
More people are punched and kicked to death each year Than killed by rifles.
Little tommy is more likely to die in a playground fist fight instead of being shot by a rifle
Little tommy is more likely to die in a playground fist fight instead of being shot by a rifle
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 9:56 am
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:56 am to coachcrisp
Bookmarked for common sense.
Have an upvote.
Have an upvote.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:59 am to FredBear
No the problem is they would take the same stats and interpret them as unnacceptable. That's why the gun control debate is so hilariuos.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:59 am to fjlee90
Gun control is not about safety.
It is about how much power the Government wields.
It is about how much power the Government wields.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:05 am to beerJeep
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Little tommy is more likely to die in a playground fist fight instead of being shot by a rifle
Little Brynlee and Adalyn are 40X as likely to die from pnemonia than getting shot. But they can always say it's the most in the world blah blah blah.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:06 am to coachcrisp
Great post.
This board is boring without BamaAtl to kick around.
This board is boring without BamaAtl to kick around.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:09 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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This board is boring without BamaAtl to kick around.
Did he/she get banned or just go away on their own?
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:13 am to SSpaniel
Probably banned.
She's unstable.
She's unstable.
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