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re: Just four honest questions for all you "The election was stolen" people. Truly, I ask this

Posted on 5/28/21 at 8:57 am to
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 8:57 am to
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Either twelve Republican chambers in the Legislatures of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona all made adjustments to their election administration laws


In Pa, Ga And Wisconsin - the rules the various counties were using to verify signatures and count votes - were edicts set down by the Executive Branches of their governments. Which is not permitted by US constitution. They were following a process which was absolutely null. In GA- it was based on an agreement btwn an inept RINO Secretary of State and Stacy Abrams, who is basically a criminal. The result was the RINO covering his own arse with an inadequate audit process that simply recounted the same fraudulent ballots that Abrams manufactured.

In PA - the rules were partially dictated by a Democrat SOS based on an absentee voting statute that violates the PA Constitution.

In AZ the RINOS in charge either looked the other way bc acknowledging that they fell asleep at the wheel was too embarrassing or they were complicit in failing to enforce the laws pass by their legislatures.

2 professors who wrote these audit procedures that you say cure everything quit bc they were applied in the wrong way by the states adopting them.

Biden is the President -But he was selected, not elected. And you will never be able to handle the truth.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:00 am to
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Either twelve Republican chambers in the Legislatures of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona all made adjustments to their election administration laws

Pretty much all were judicial rulings or admin rulings, not laws

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and those states continue not to prosecute these state crimes

I'm not saying there were crimes

I'm saying bureaucracies and judges instituted ad hoc schemes that predominantly helped Biden
Posted by Gaston
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:02 am to
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crimes


See, you all get to define this...to y’all not checking signatures on ballets and feeding in thousands of bullshite votes is NOT illegal. It’s how you shite canned Trump and you all are totally fine with that...I mean it wasn’t illegal so what the frick do you care?
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 9:04 am
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:05 am to
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You do realize the election in those instances was carried out in opposition to legislated election law, rather than in compliance with it? Did you miss that detail?


If that's true, surely there is a case to be made at the state level. Proceed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:08 am to
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If that's true, surely there is a case to be made at the state level.

There were court cases. Preselected Judges made ad hoc rulings via emergency orders and imposed these regulations on administrations/agencies that did not have the proper infrastructure to safely implement the rulings.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:10 am to
The courts usurped the legislature to let the secretary of states make the rules...no signature verification, send out unrequested ‘ballots...so your suggestion is that we go to courts and ask them their opinion? They’re the ones who broke the law and gave power to people who constitutionally had none .
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 9:12 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:10 am to
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If that's true
Have you been living under a rock?
That case has been made, in court, in PA, GA, Wisc, etc.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:11 am to
What is your take on the spikes? Just mail-ins/harvested votes added to the system?
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Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17301 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:13 am to
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that's true, surely there is a case to be made at the state level. Proceed.


You do realize this was the entire theory of the case j all litigation after 11-3, including the lawsuit brought by the State of Texas against the State of Pa for failing to follow its own law, and thus- by extension the law the COTUS required it to follow. Accordingly the entire election process was flawed legally.

The SCOTUS (despite being the EXCLUSIVE forum for suits btwn the States) dismissed the case.

No comment on the merits. Just no standing.

Cases brought to compel compliance prior to that abortion of an “election” in state and federal courts were dismissed bc they were filed too early prior to the election, or filed too late after it.

You have literally no idea what you are talking about. None.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:13 am to
Yeah I think it fits the pattern, especially the Biden only ballots. Why I said Biden earlier and not Democrats. A larger scheme (like Dominion changing votes) would not have had those Biden only ballots imho
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:14 am to
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the democrats have fought tooth and nail to prevent someone looking into the election.


All that needs to be said really.

If a security guard accuses me of shoplifting and says he has the whole thing on video, I would be an idiot to hire a lawyer to prevent him from showing the video to the police if I knew I was innocent.
Posted by longwayfromLA
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:15 am to
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Which is not permitted by US constitution.


Big, if true. Someone should make a case out of this.

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In PA - the rules were partially dictated by a Democrat SOS based on an absentee voting statute that violates the PA Constitution.


Big, if true. Someone should make a case out of this.

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In AZ the RINOS in charge either looked the other way bc acknowledging that they fell asleep at the wheel was too embarrassing or they were complicit in failing to enforce the laws pass by their legislatures.


Weird how Republicans who don't enforce the Big Lie are by definition RINOs.

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Biden is the President -But he was selected, not elected. And you will never be able to handle the truth.



I understand that is psychologically important for you to believe this and the Big Lie has at this point become catechism, but given the scale of the accusations and all the Krakens and nonsense over the last 8 months, no one outside of y'all's Trumpy bubble is going to listen to y'all until y'all produce a body. This would be relatively easy if the accusations had any merit, but alas...



Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:17 am to
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That case has been made, in court, in PA, GA, Wisc, etc.


How did those turn out?

Anyhow, election fraud is a state crime. We're still well within the statute of limitations. Where are those criminal cases?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:17 am to
analyze past election 2016.
trump won.
306 ev.

there were spikes.

there are always urban spikes.

spike in count just means big city has many voters being reported.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4218 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:17 am to
Yes definitely stolen, I have no doubt. This country is doomed if this is not corrected.
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:20 am to
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You have literally no idea what you are talking about. None.


Again. I understand that Trump brought and lost a billion election cases in the lame duck session. And I'm sure you have all kinds of fan fiction about why that was cheating too. But that's all old news now. If what you're saying is true, there are thousands and thousands of criminals on the loose who had participated in massive conspiracy of thousands and thousands of individual crimes. Where are those cases?
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 9:23 am
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17301 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:24 am to
Someone made cases out of both of your examples. And the failure of courts to hear them for no reason is the reason we remain divided 6 months later. You would realize this if you weren’t spending the month of December saying Trump lost all his lawsuits, while being too stupid or to ignorant to realize the difference btwn losing on the merits and losing on a tortured procedural technicality motivated by either sheet corruption, or a fear that Rachel Maddow and movie stars would say mean shite about you bc you ruled for the Bad Orange Man.

I thought Obama was an awful President. I thought he was awful for the country, and basically a communist. But he was at least popular with his idiotic base. And I believe he was actually elected twice. Biden was placed there - at the very least - by an unconstitutional process.

The R Governors in Georgia and Arizona for reasons known only to them failed to enforce the laws their legislatures wrote. And it’s inexcusable.

Government failed us on every level and now we have a dementia patient controlled by God knows who installed as President illegitimately.

Nobody is driving the bus right now. And this is entirely the fault of leftist morons like you.

I hope you enjoy your communist utopia.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:35 am to
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 examination will review complete cognitive absence, such as that requisite in intimating swing state elections were carried out in compliance with legislative directive.


so there was no widespread fraud anywhere, but darn those swing state GOP election officials failed in their duty.
ok.
just stop saying fraud.

say covid inspired tomfoolery.
judges allowing people to vote by mail after the usual date and counting their ballots even after postmaster general did all he could to prevent mail from being on time.
take out those blue boxes now.
take out the machines in mail facilities. over time? no way.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:39 am to
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longwayfromLA


Wednesday just destroyed you
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:43 am to
Yeah dude's taking quite a beating
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