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Just a word of caution, wifi sniffers might be illegal in polling areas.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:34 am
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:34 am
I know Mike Lindell has been promoting the use of wifi sniffers on election day to check if polling machines are connected to the internet when they are not supposed to be connected to the internet.
The problem with this promotion is wifi sniffers might be illegal in your jurisdiction without the property owner's consent.
So even if you covertly bring a wifi sniffer into the polling booth with you and detect an internet connection between the polling machine and the internet, about the only thing you can do with that information is anonymously release it to internet social circles. I guess this can edify some local election officials but since the information was obtained illegally there is not much that can be done through the judicial system.
I don't know how to legally catch polling machines connected to the internet.
The problem with this promotion is wifi sniffers might be illegal in your jurisdiction without the property owner's consent.
So even if you covertly bring a wifi sniffer into the polling booth with you and detect an internet connection between the polling machine and the internet, about the only thing you can do with that information is anonymously release it to internet social circles. I guess this can edify some local election officials but since the information was obtained illegally there is not much that can be done through the judicial system.
I don't know how to legally catch polling machines connected to the internet.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 10:38 am
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Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:40 am to GumboPot
Aren't all cellphones and anything that looks for a wifi.... a wifi sniffer?
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:43 am to GhostOfFreedom
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Aren't all cellphones and anything that looks for a wifi.... a wifi sniffer?
You are right. I just checked the app store there are several apps for that.
Apparently everyone with a phone can check.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:43 am to GhostOfFreedom
Cell phones can look for Wi-Fi. Can the sniffer determine what devices are communicating over that network?
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:48 am to teke184
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Can the sniffer determine what devices are communicating over that network?
I'm not an IT guy but I would assume that you would have to match the polling machine device name to confirm connectivity or the capability of connectivity. Like on your phone under wifi setting you can see all the devices within the network. I'm sure the sniffer apps in the iPhone store offer more capability and extract more info.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:54 am to teke184
Cell phones can only see wifi signals that broadcast an SSID.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:04 am to GumboPot
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without the property owner's consent.
Not familiar with all states, but polling locations are usually in publicly owned facilities. There is no "permission" to be given or denied
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:05 am to Poohter
quote:.
Cell phones can only see wifi signals that broadcast an SSID.
Negative.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:05 am to teke184
quote:in Texas, a phone must be turned off or in your purse or pocket. Can't have it out. Very illegal
Cell phones can look for Wi-Fi. Can the sniffer determine what devices are communicating over that network?
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:15 am to HubbaBubba
I am sure most of the signals can be picked up from outside the polling area. It would have to be a really weak device not to be picked up.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:50 am to GumboPot
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You are right. I just checked the app store there are several apps for that.
Apparently everyone with a phone can check.
A phone will not find a wifi signal that has its SSID disabled. If it is disabled you have to know the system name to connect. My home system is setup like that and has mac address filtering.
Security through obscurity, (SSID disabled).
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:54 am to RobbBobb
quote:By and large, I would say we are the opposite. I vote at a Church just down the street. The Church I attends is a voting place.
Not familiar with all states, but polling locations are usually in publicly owned facilities. There is no "permission" to be given or denied
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:55 am to GumboPot
people are posting pictures online of them voting.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:02 pm to dgnx6
but is a wifi sniffer more or less illegal than Biden sniffing young girls hair
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:15 pm to Poohter
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Cell phones can only see wifi signals that broadcast an SSID.
Incorrect, sniffers and packet captures work without issue, with or without an SSID.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 1:52 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:Next time I vote I think I'll change the name of my mobile hotspot to "Dominion Ballot Box 1 - *do not share!"
I am sure most of the signals can be picked up from outside the polling area. It would have to be a really weak device not to be picked up.
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