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re: Jury rules against dad trying to save his 7-year-old from gender ‘transition’

Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22760 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:48 pm to
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1) he murders the ex-wife and goes to jail, leaving the kid in the system where he has a rough but manageable childhood and life despite the fact that his dad is in jail for killing his mom.
This is a win if by the time he is an adult his cock is still there and working.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:58 pm to
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He was “diagnosed” as dysphoric by some lesbian whose business is called “Dallas Rainbow Counseling”. Seems completely legit to me.
Yep, at age 6, after 5 years of being brainwashed.

And I'm sure there was no confirmation bias involved with the "Rainbow" Counselor.

How convenient is it that the father was granted every aspect of conservatorship EXCEPT that he wasn't allowed to get a second opinion with an independent psychologist?

Funny how the judge wouldn't allow anyone to examine and evaluate James except the one psychologist the mother wanted.

But dipshit Hank wants us to believe the judge wasn't biased.

The Findings of Fact that the judge signed off on where obnoxiously retarded too. Indisputable proof the judge had a bias against the father.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27185 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:18 pm to
If you are an adult and want to undergo hormone therapy because you wish you ?ere not the gender you really re. Then I think you should undergo therapy teach you to stop hating your own gender and should be roundly condemned for harboring such bigoted hatred and branded as a Nazi!
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:25 pm to
“Findings of Fact” are.normally drafted by the prevailing party and a draft is presented to the judge for revision and/signature. They are always somewhat biased.

The court appointed an amicus attorney to represent the child, and his questions of the witnesses seem to be largely aligned with the father’s desires.

Here and here and here are pretty good summaries of two days of expert testimony, from a website largely sympathetic to the father’s position. A good read.

Interestingly, there was near-unanimity among the experts that the child should not commence medical reassignment for another three or four years. There was also near-unanimity that the child currently remains “gender fluid,” meaning that he has not settled completely on one gender or the other.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 3:30 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:27 pm to
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There was also near-unanimity that the child currently remains “gender fluid,” meaning that he has not settled completely on one gender or the other.




How fluid would he be if you removed the mother's coaxing of him to be a her?
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:29 pm to
Do not engage pierre delecto in his tangent.

He needs to own his position and continue dying on that hill.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:34 pm to
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How fluid would he be if you removed the mother's coaxing of him to be a her?
Unknown.

One of the summaries says that the child told a counselor that his mother lets him be whatever he wants and that his father tries to make him be male (paraphrased).

Was this coached? Who knows, but my experience is that these psych counselors are pretty good about recognizing when kids have been coached. (My experience in custody cases with psych counselors relates more to normal custody fights than to gender issues).
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:34 pm to
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Yes, hank is.

50 posters are telling him he is fricking sick.


That gives me some relief.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:35 pm to
Its bad enough that he created "tani" alter to upvote his arse.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:39 pm to
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Are leftist actually defending castrating a 7 year old child?
Yes, hank is. 50 posters are telling him he is fricking sick.
Hank has argued nothing of the sort. In fact, he has specifically stated that the child is far too young to begin medical transition, even if he IS gender-dysphoric. Hank has also cited to Dr. Debra Soh, who recommends AGAINST medical transition of pre-pubescent children.

But Deux will continue to assert that I have said things I did not say and taken positions that I have not taken.

It is what he does.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:39 pm to
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Here is the article from Dr, Debra Soh, in which she presents that position ... with which I agree.


You agree with her position but don't think chemically castrating a seven year old is child abuse???
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:40 pm to
Cool story pierre, but everyone can read the thread. Liar.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:44 pm to
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You agree with her position but don't think chemically castrating a seven year old is child abuse???
Correct.

I think it is the wrong move, given the literature regarding the eventual sexuality of dysphoric pre-pubescents, but that is not remotely the same as “child abuse.”

There is a wide range of descriptions that might apply to such actions ... ranging thru “categorically correct” at one end of the spectrum thru “blatant child abuse” at the other end ... with “marginally the better option” and “wrong decision with honest motivation” falling between the poles.

I think the last of those descriptors is probably most accurate.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:44 pm to
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You agree with her position but don't think chemically castrating a seven year old is child abuse???
Correct


Which frankly is just beyond stupid
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:44 pm to
Interesting that you short string of upvotes has stopped again, pierre.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:46 pm to
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Interesting that you short string of upvotes has stopped again, pierre.


Hank sounds like an idiot because he's making asinine points. You, on the other hand, just sound like an idiot because you sound like an idiot.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:46 pm to
Pierre Delecto already told us, its "just a bad decision" oh well ho hum.

And, Hank-Romney also said we are all emotional authoritarians for wanting to legislate against child abuse.

What an obtuse arse.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:47 pm to
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I think it is the wrong move, given the literature regarding the eventual sexuality of dysphoric pre-pubescents, but that is not remotely the same as “child abuse.”




Explain to me how castrating a 7 year old isn't child abuse, please. I mean, you can't, but give it your best shot.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:48 pm to
K thx
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89056 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:49 pm to
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Which frankly is just beyond stupid


Maybe it’s me, but frankly, I just don’t get the hills some of these people choose to die on.

I don’t think I’ve seen any of our actual self-professed hardcore leftists in here defending this.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 3:52 pm
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