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re: Jury rules against dad trying to save his 7-year-old from gender ‘transition’

Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:16 pm to
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Why do you continue this dishonesty? You’re already subjected to it,
Hank wants to pretend CPS doesn't already exist.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
67399 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:16 pm to
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Another poster specifically asked a question about orthodontic work, and I respond to that question. You then pretend that it was I who inserted orthodontic work into the discussion.


No, I specifically brought orthodontic work into the discussion as another example of elective procedures that are not child abuse. You're the one pretending all elective procedures are the same.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:17 pm to
Rob already called him on it.

Hank is intentionally obtuse. Deep down he knows that this is child abuse.

He is compelled to defend it, else a MAJOR marxist point of emphasis is exposed.

He is not a libertarian. We all know what he is.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:17 pm to
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if you think that there exist in this entire universe only one distinction between those two procedures, you are not 1/10 as intelligent as I had originally believed you to be.

Your other attempt at distinction was embarrassing.

Oh, and there is other distinction. Namely. As horrific as CC is, chemically castrating the 7 year old you groomed for years to think he's a girl............is WORSE

I mean. CC sucks. But, you just end up a girl who can't enjoy sex as much.

Chemical castration makes you no longer what you, by ALL frickING MEDICAL LITERATURE WORTH A shite............will BE once you hit puberty.

And, you can't take it back!
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 2:19 pm
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:18 pm to
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and found to basically go away at puberty in more than 98% of all cases.


Do you have a link for that? Not doubting the veracity of your statement just would like to read more on it/
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:20 pm to
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Then perhaps SHE needs to be evaluated.
You do not seem to understand the procedural posture of this case. That “evaluation” is exactly what took place.

The father was asking the court to make the determination that the mother was not mentally or emotionally fit to be the parent making medical decisions for this child. He argued that he was the parent who should be making those decisions,. The court’s “evaluation” was that he was incorrect and that the MOTHER was the correct parent to be making those decisions.

Again, disagree with the evaluation the court provided. I will not argue with you. But do not pretend that the resolution you propose was not exactly what took place.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Hank has basically begged off even addressing the reality that it's pretty much certainty that the reason the child "feels like a girl" is because of mom in the first place.
damn, son, we’re up to 25 pages now. You expect me to have picked up every single peripheral argument and address it in depth?

did the mother probably want to daughter? Yes probably so.

Is it entirely possible that she projected that to the child whether consciously or subconsciously? Yes, probably so.

Is it entirely possible that the child acts like a female in mom‘s presence and acts like a mail and dad‘s present? Yes, probably so.

Why because kids are generally pleasers.

Again, for the 723rd time, I do not think the mother made the right decision here. That is not remotely what I am arguing. unlike some of these others, I actually thought you were bright enough to understand that.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:25 pm to
Hank's existence and this case prove that Texas, like Baltimore, is infested with RATS.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:25 pm to
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amn, son, we’re up to 25 pages now. You expect me to have picked up every single peripheral argument and dressed in depth?

did the mother probably want to daughter? Yes probably so.

Is it entirely possible that she projected that to the child whether consciously or subconsciously? Yes, probably so.

Is it entirely possible that the child acts like a female in mom‘s presence and acts like a mail and dad‘s present? Yes, probably so.

Why because kids are generally pleasers.

You just described textbook child abuse

That mom didn't know she was abusing the child is not relevant.

Moreover, you also KNOW why somehow, this textbook abuse slipped thru where, if she'd just told the kid he was fat for 4 years, it wouldn't have.

The left. Period.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89665 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:26 pm to
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I think this was probably just a woman who thinks she is doing the right thing for her child, despite the fact that I disagree with her.


I’ve seen people get a cop called on them for swatting their unruly child on the backside in Target.

Those people weren’t “child abusers”. They were doing what they felt was best for their children, i.e., disciplining them. Yet they got in trouble, despite the fact that what they did was far less egregious than what this woman is doing.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:26 pm to
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go target shooting this weekend. There are plenty of people in the population who think that’s a bad idea.

Spend all day Saturday gorging on ice cream and hot dogs. There are plenty of people who think that’s a bad idea as well.

Hell, go parachuting. I would not be surprised if there are millions of people who think that it would be a bad idea to do that with a small child. But you are a parent. You get to make that decision. Not the state.
Aggiehank: child abuse good. Target shooting bad. Parachuting bad. Hot dogs and ice cream bad.
you are clearly not very bright. I have said nothing to the effect that there is anything wrong with any of those activities
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:27 pm to
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you are clearly not very bright


You're so emotional and hyperbolic.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:27 pm to
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Those people weren’t “child abusers”. They were doing what they felt was best for their children, i.e., disciplining them. Yet they got in trouble, despite the fact that what they did was far less egregious than what this woman is doing.



Hell. You could spank your kid daily for 10 years,,,,,,for NOTHIGN.....and not achieve her level of abuse.
Posted by Tani
Member since Oct 2019
40 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:29 pm to
Get a grip. Gay people aren’t hurting you in any way.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:30 pm to
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found to basically go away at puberty in more than 98% of all cases.
Do you have a link for that? Not doubting the veracity of your statement just would like to read more on it/
Here is the article from Dr, Debra Soh, in which she presents that position ... with which I agree.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:31 pm to
It really is comical what Hank wants to run in this thread.

If I told my kid for 4 years he was fat when he wasn't......and then, because I did that........he wanted his stomach stapled...........Hank knows I'd lose in court(and he would AGREE). Moreover, Hank knows it wouldn't require my wife sue me. CPS would kick my arse.

If I told my daughter she was ugly for 4 years and then, at age 7, she wanted plastic surgery on her face...........ditto

I could list hundreds of similar scenarios. And, the funny part is, in the above 2 and any of the others, NONE of the procedures in question would be anywhere NEAR as bad as chemical castration. NOT EVEN CLOSE

But, the left has brought as here and Hank knows it. So. He runs interference. And, I call him on it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Here is the article from Dr, Debra Soh, in which she presents that position ... with which I agree.

Even the most optimistic studies place the number at over 80%
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:32 pm to
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find some language which lies somewhere between “bad decision“ and “blatant child abuse,“ and I may well agree to it.

The majority on this thread see child abuse. I simply do not.

I see a woman who probably genuinely believes that she is making the right decision for her child. I disagree with her, but I am not going to call her a child abuser for holding a view different than my own.

Reason #237427 why you're a sick piece of shite.

There's a video of 3 year old James, who has no real cognizant ability to understand what he's even saying, explaining to his father that mommy is painting his nails, putting headbands in his hair, putting him in dresses, and then telling him he's a girl, and yet somehow you don't think this is child abuse (ie. obvious brainwashing and manufacturing of gender dysphoria).

If he's even really dysphoric. He very VERY likely has no freaking clue what the hell is going on, only that he has been told so many times he is a girl that the notion has simply become his belief.

We will probably never know if he was really ever FEELING like a girl with male anatomy, because the pills he's about to take will make it impossible for him to ever process that question again.

You refuse to use common sense and acknowledge that this brainwashing was obviously perpetuated for years, and most certainly shaped James' behavior and very under-developed and impressionable belief structure.

And now he is to undergo chemically induced ARTIFICIAL and irreversible alteration of his body.

All because the mother decided so.

Or are you going to suggest a 2-7 year old is capable of making such a decision, and the parent should abide by it?

If so, GTFO.

If not, then HOW THE frick IS THAT NOT CHILD ABUSE??
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Get a grip. Gay people aren’t hurting you in any way.

Um, trans isn't gay
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:33 pm to
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left has brought as here and Hank knows it. So. He runs interference. And, I call him on it.


This. And his buddy dbagbuckeye does the same.

The board has noticed this, just look at the dozens of posters calling hank out in this single thread.
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