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re: Jury rules against dad trying to save his 7-year-old from gender ‘transition’
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:00 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:00 am to AggieHank86
quote:It's got nothing to do with emotion. It's just made up bullshite.
Change the medical issue for one with less emotional resonance,
quote:Any jury that rules that the less scary parent is the one who wants to chemically castrate their kid is insane.
In essence, this jury determined that this father should not have the right to make any decision of legal significance whatsoever with regard to his children.
quote:Yeah. You're not gonna get away with that claptrap. Sorry.
Imagine that 10 doctors had opined that this child needed heart surgery, yet the father refused to accept that diagnosis,
quote:They are inevitable because you fricking compared this completely made up "science" to "heart surgery" you fricking hack.
now, in anticipation of the inevitable responses, I do not support the mother’s medical decision in this particular instance.
quote:Oh, yes. I most certainly do.
Do you see the Authoritarian concerns raised by this case?
The authoritarian who have bludgeoned Americans into thinking that saying trans is a mental illness = ignorant and a lack of tolerance are most certainly authoritarian in nature.
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:01 am to Pechon
quote:
You're going to compare a life saving procedure with a woman who is hell bent on ruining her ex-husband by forcing her son to become a girl at the risk of his wellbeing for her own selfish wants and needs
And he wonders why he's made fun of on this board.
His posts in this thread are ONE HUNDRED PERCENT interference.
His ilk recognizes how horrid this shite is for the left politically and, as such, they have to basically spam the net with obfuscation to make it seem less bad.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:02 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:Exactly. He DOES know this.
This isn’t a medical decision. It’s purely ideological. Which of course you know.
There is ZERO science behind this. That you can get a bunch of quacks to show up in court to push this nonsense doesn't change that reality.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:02 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The medical community seems to disagree with your assessment.
No it doesn't.
And you know it.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:04 am to AggieHank86
quote:It's because her "medical" decision isn't based on actual medicine. You're trying to have it both ways. You're trying to say the med community agrees with her and then you post a perfect example where they do not.
For the 50th time, I disagree with the mother’s “medical” decision, and I would have acted differently. I am NOT analyzing that issue. I am analyzing the legal framework of the judicial decision.
By the way. Soh was being kind. Studies show that more than 98% of all prepubescent children who exhibit gender dysphoria lose it after puberty. EVERY frickING STUDY shows this.
So no. The medical community does NOT agree that transitioning a fricking 7 year old makes sense.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:07 am to ShortyRob
The majority of this forum thinks that Cletus at the local brake shop is better-equipped to diagnose and address transgenderism than professionals who have spent their entire careers studying the matter. Such is life.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:07 am to ShortyRob
I'm listening to an interview of the Dad. The mom started the transition when he was 3 years old. 3 freaking years old. Think about how deranged that woman is, and homohank is in fully complacent allowing the state to force a kid to get castrated. This is worse than abortion IMO. The end result is the same but the transitioning kid gets to live a life a misery and depression before he inevitable offs himself. Good job, lefties. This is why people think you're all crazy.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:09 am to AggieHank86
Keep being you Hank... good grief what a putz
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:09 am to ShortyRob
quote:
There is ZERO science behind this.
There is fake science behind this. The psychology, pharmaceutical and medical communities have fully embraced transgenderism. There is too much institutional inertia for a parent that disagrees with the trans path to fight against. It's one parent against the entire professional group. It's an impossible battle to win. The pro-trans parent has the courts, psychologists, pharmaceutical, and medical communities on their side. The anti-trans parent has nothing but common sense and nature (which always wins in the long run).
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:09 am to AggieHank86
Never change HeroHank
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:12 am to ShortyRob
quote:I AGREE with you!
The medical community does NOT agree that transitioning a fricking 7 year old makes sense.
The question I am addressing is the whether we want the State to step in and you usurp parental decision-making regarding decisions of this type. I see that is extraordinarily dangerous and authoritarian.
Remember that the judge awarded the mother the right to make medical decisions back in the original divorce, long before this transgender issue ever arose. Apparently, this father had demonstrated himself as being a poor decision maker on medical issues in general and long before this particular dispute.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 10:20 am
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:13 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The majority of this forum thinks that Cletus at the local brake shop is better-equipped to diagnose and address transgenderism
That's just lame as frick and you know it.
Although, honestly. Cletus at the brake shop is ABSOLUTELY more qualified than the people who are pushing agenda and nothing more.
quote:You know as well as everyone else in here that this field is 100% populated by agenda drive quacks and that anyone who goes against the orthodoxy is basically ending their academic career.
than professionals who have spent their entire careers studying the matter.
There has been zero new science supporting the concept of trans and all of the actual...........I mean ALL of the actual science on the subject before the agenda started............was against them.
They're merely mentally ill. It's not complicated.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:13 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Apparently, this father had demonstrated himself as being a poor decision maker on medical issues in general and long before this particular dispute.
Wrong. He didn't have the money to fight it the first round.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:15 am to AggieHank86
quote:Well, just a few posts ago, you said the medical community DID support transitioning 7 year olds.
I AGREE with you!
Make up your mind.
quote:
The question I am addressing is the weather we want the State to step in and you usurp parental decision-making regarding decisions of this type. I see that is extraordinarily dangerous and authoritarian.
The state won't let that same woman go get the kid a fricking tattoo. Spare me
Hell. Go try and get your daughter a boob job at age 7, see how that works out for you.
Just stop it. You're being obtuse.
quote:If the kid wasn't trans, but instead, was just and actual girl who wanted a boob job, could mom get her one?
Remember that the judge awarded the mother the right to make medical decisions back in the original divorce,
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:16 am to wutangfinancial
quote:
Apparently, this father had demonstrated himself as being a poor decision maker on medical issues in general and long before this particular dispute.
It would take one spectacular level of bad for him to have done anything WORSE than "yeah, castrate him".
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:17 am to ShortyRob
quote:
You know as well as everyone else in here that this field is 100% populated by agenda drive quacks and that anyone who goes against the orthodoxy is basically ending their academic career.
Correct.
And the reason they get no push back is because it's such a small group that really doesn't effect that many people and usually trans people are people that can make their own decisions whether to alter their body's chemistry to meet their mental state or not.
But transitioning these pre-pubescence kids without any sort of self awareness is pretty disturbing.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:17 am to wutangfinancial
quote:But Hank says that apparently, she was a better decision maker than dad.
I'm listening to an interview of the Dad. The mom started the transition when he was 3 years old. 3 freaking years old.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:18 am to wutangfinancial
quote:The State is NOT forcing a castration. The State is leaving a medical decision in the hands of the parent who has been determined to be better-equipped than the other parent to make medical decisions for the children.
(Hank) is in fully complacent allowing the state to force a kid to get castrated.
Even when I disagree with the medical decision in a given case (as here), I would prefer to see the occasional parent make a bad decision than to see the State take medical decisions away from parents and instead make those decisions for them by statute.
I do understand that you cannot grasp the distinction.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:18 am to ShortyRob
Just remember. There were ACTUAL MEDICAL DOCTORS involved in choosing to start the transition of a 3 year old.
You know what? Cletus at the brake shop IS more qualified than those agenda driven pieces of shite.
You know what? Cletus at the brake shop IS more qualified than those agenda driven pieces of shite.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:20 am to AggieHank86
quote:I'll ask again.
The State is NOT forcing a castration. The State is leaving a medical decision in the hands of the parent who has been determined to be better-equipped than the other parent to make medical decisions for the children.
If the child was just a normal girl age 7 who wanted a boob job, would the state have backed mom?
We all know the answer to that.
In fact, the left would go ape shite over a mom getting her 7 year old a boob job because..............well, you can probably figure that part out.
Nose job too.
Eye lift.
Etc etc etc.
Which tells you ALL you need to know on the subject
quote:The state ALREADY does this.
Even when I disagree with the medical decision in a given case (as here), I would prefer to see the occasional parent make a bad decision than to see the State take medical decisions away from parents and instead make those decisions for them by statute.
You keep tying this claptrap as if you don't know it which is just embarrassing hack shite
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