re: June of last year I predicted Israel was cooked

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Buddy, we didn't even do that in Japan

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What?

We didn’t firebomb entire cities?

We didn’t drop nuclear weapons on two cities?


We didn’t make it perfectly clear in no uncertain terms we will do this to every single fricking city until you cry uncle?

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In Iraq, we went father than we did in Japan

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Holy frick.

Yea we absolutely burned Japan down, we fire bombed them and left a few targets to truly test our A bombs. We beat their arse up and down the pacific. We haven’t fought a war like that since then, every war since then we fight with hands tied instead of getting the job done like that.

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What?

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You apparently cannot read. We firebombed Japan, Tokyo and 66 other cities (causing massive death and destruction but still not getting a capitulation until the atomic bombs) and while still fighting against the Japanese military. The Iraqi uniformed military was not nearly as resilient.

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We didn’t make it perfectly clear in no uncertain terms we will do this to every single fricking city until you cry uncle?

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Buddy, we had to escalate after the firebombing campaign did not produce the desired result.

In contrast, we defeated Iraq and Afghanistan in a military sense almost immediately. But we could not do the same at controlling a low-level insurgency. Do you think firebombing Kabul or Baghdad would have produced your desired result? Or would it have ensured the exact opposite thing?

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Holy frick.

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Yes dummy, we dismantled one government and did not dismantle another. Learn to read my man.

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"The Jews" and the secular state of Israel are not the same thing. This dumb conflation is one of the many things that is driving people against Israel. People see right through it. Maybe you don't. Maybe you're easily swayed by cheap slogans.

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"Jews" and "Israel" are close enough to being the same thing that trying to argue against it sounds moronic. And like I've said - you can start trying to make your case against it but you will inevitably end up down a social media path where people are posting swastikas and big-nose caricatures. When you get to this point - and you will - it takes a second, but if you don't immediately realize that you've reached the precipice of antisemitism, then you're one of them. Congratulations. You can adopt this trailer park ideology, or you can say "Oh, I'm here. Do I want to be associated with this?"

I see Israel as the human embodiment of the slogan "Never Again", coined post WWII about Jewish life after the holocaust. They went through it and then they decided they'd outright destroy anyone who ever threatened them again. As Americans, they are the absolute biggest tool against our biggest threat to survival: the continued rise of Islamism. They're surrounded by countries that hate us more than anything. They're surrounced by countries that would like to see America eradicated more than they have the power to love, to feel. Israel is the first line of defense here. Maybe we have to keep them in check every now and again, but we need them there. And we need them there forever.

If you see Israel, or Jews, or any derivative of them as a bigger threat than muslims, then I've already wasted enough of my time trying to prove a point. I probably already lost you at "holocaust" which you likely deny happened. Perhaps you should look into local Klans to join. It'll at least get you out of the house.

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"Jews" and "Israel" are close enough to being the same thing that trying to argue against it sounds moronic

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My ex girlfriend from Louisiana is Jewish. She is not an Israeli. This isn't a difficult concept. Conflating the 2 is pure stupidity.

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You know firebombing Tokyo killed more than either atomic bomb, right?

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Again, do you think we firebombed Tokyo for the fun of it? No, it was used within the context of a campaign to force capitulation and prevent a very costly Allied invasion. Did it produce the results intended? In other words, if we had never bombed Tokyo during Operation Meetinghouse, and instead used the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki directly, would that course have resulted in Japanese capitulation?

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You kill the barbarian horde until they all die or they cry mercy like Japan. Either way, the terms are acceptable. Death to them all, or they cry mercy and join modernity.

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Buddy, this isn't a fantasy novel. This isn't the way the world works and you only think it does because you are retarded. You know nothing about any of the actual on-the-ground policies that turned Japan into an ally. Nor do you care. You're driven by this retarded bloodlust that you would obviously outsource.

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You really are a fricking retard

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Yeah dude, I'm sure you are going to give me some wonderful examples of post-war ennui in Japan in the novels of Mishima. See, here I am referencing things you will never read to mock your lack of knowledge.

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Again, do you think we firebombed Tokyo for the fun of it? No, it was used within the context of a campaign to force capitulation and prevent a very costly Allied invasion.

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WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN frickING SAYING THE WHOLE frickING TIME YOU INGRATE.

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Did it produce the results intended? In other words, if we had never bombed Tokyo during Operation Meetinghouse, and instead used the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki directly, would that course have resulted in Japanese capitulation?

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We.

Did.

What.

Was.

Necessary.

To.

Win.


My.

Whole.


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POINT.

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This isn't the way the world works and you only think it does because you are retarded. You know nothing about any of the actual on-the-ground policies that turned Japan into an ally. Nor do you care. You're driven by this retarded bloodlust that you would obviously outsource.

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We literally used our military to completely and totally break the will of the military and the people to continue. Once this was done we went in and rebuilt and turned them into one of our closest allies.

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Yeah dude, I'm sure you are going to give me some wonderful examples of post-war ennui in Japan in the novels of Mishima. See, here I am referencing things you will never read to mock your lack of knowledge.

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None of that would have been possible without us doing what was necessary to destroy the militarist structure and the willpower of the people.

Which.


Again


Has been my whole god damn point dumb frick.

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WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN frickING SAYING THE WHOLE frickING TIME YOU INGRATE.

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Listen to me dumbass. Did that campaign succeed in its objectives? Yes or no.

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We.

Did.

What.

Was.

Necessary.

To.

Win.


My.

Whole.


fricking


POINT.

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How about this? Give me a specific example that illustrates your point that in Iraq and Afghanistan we didn't do 'what was necessary to win.'

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None of that would have been possible without us doing what was necessary to destroy the militarist structure and the willpower of the people.

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Again, this hasn't been true in the Middle East at any point. It creates the exact opposite effect. Time and again. You apparently cannot think through the externalities of a heterogenous population with varieties of religions, ethnicities, languages, etc., are different from a homogenized nation. If you had even nominal familiarity with the literature, you might be embarrassed. Given that you will outsource your bloodlust regardless, I don't suspect you feel embarrassed by very much. Move along little dude, this is way above your pay grade. Next time capitalize your entire post. It truly aids the notion that you are retarded.

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Dead sons can’t avenge dead fathers. Kill them until you break their will.

It quite literally is that easy. It is the way war has been fought up until 1945.

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There are 92 million people in Iran. Rough guess of how many people we would need to kill to achieve this goal?

20% would be 18 million. Are you comfortable with that number?

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20% would be 18 million. Are you comfortable with that number?

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Die or cry uncle. Those are the options in war.