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re: Judge Sullivan asks judge to look at whether Flynn could be held in criminal contempt

Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by Zachary
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:29 pm to
Perjury was not the charge at issue in the case.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:30 pm to
So now I’ll read it, because it’s now relevant ty.
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:47 pm to
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The judge doesn't have to grant the Motion to Dismiss the Charges against Flynn
What charges ? DOJ (the plaintiff) doesn’t want to charge. Is the Judicial branch now rogue ??
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:54 pm to
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ineffective assistance of counsel


My arse. Those motherfrickers were colluding with a corrupt prosecution.

Every lawyer with their name in that letterhead should be disbarred and then beaten to unconsciousness.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 8:02 pm to


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that if the court intends to question the defendant under oath, on the record, and in the presence of counsel about the offense to which he/she has pleaded, that his/her answers may later be used against him/her in a prosecution for perjury or false statement.


So let me get this straight, a provision in place to hold a defendant accountable for lying to the court in his defense is being used to attempt a new prosecution of a defendant that the plaintiff admits was prosecuted in bad faith in the first place?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 8:05 pm to
Quickest way to end this is for Flynn to say he lied to the Court in his plea on advice of his counsel, who were colluding with a corrupt prosecution. He fricks them, and then he gets a pardon for a bullshite conviction.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 8:06 pm
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 8:11 pm to
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Perjury was not the charge at issue in the case.

It is now because the new Lord and Savior Barack Obama said Flynn committed perjury.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 8:24 pm to
The DOJ dropped the charges. Before that, they put forth evidence of his guilt and argued into the court record. If the court is pondering whether Flynn committed perjury by changing his plea and should be held in Criminal contempt, should the prosecutors also be brought up for the same contempt (and they’re arguably be held to a higher standard as officers of the court)?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 8:25 pm to
yes
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 8:46 pm to
A judge has contempt power.

He doesn’t have the power to charge someone with lying to the FBI or violating the Logan Act
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:08 pm to
How can a DOJ dropping a case because new evidence was found be Flynn committing contempt?

Where is Van Grack?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:11 pm to
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The judge doesn't have to grant the Motion to Dismiss the Charges against Flynn

If the prosecution doesn’t show up...
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:13 pm to
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Judge Jeanine
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15438 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:20 pm to
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How can a DOJ dropping a case because new evidence was found be Flynn committing contempt?


It can’t be. Because it isn’t.

This is such utter bullshite CA. I’m nauseous
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:29 pm to
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A judge has contempt power.


Which is what he appointed this retired judge to address.

quote:

He doesn’t have the power to charge someone with lying to the FBI or violating the Logan Act


Never said he does or is.

But Flynn plead pursuant to Rule 11 and it was comprehensive and compete.

So what now has changed? I don’t see how Flynn and Van Grack can both come out of this unscathed. The two are mutually exclusive at this point and Sullivan seems like he’s sticking his boot up one of their asses.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:32 pm to
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So what now has changed?


The plaintiff admitted it’s prosecution was unethical
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:32 pm to
Who are you hoping gets the boot?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80319 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:33 pm to
Was it unethical for the three years or was pursued and if so, did the prosecutor know this and maintain it anyway?

It’s forest for the trees, but in a way Sullivan is holding DOJ accountable by this recent move. If he dismisses it then it all gets swept under the rug.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 9:34 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80319 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:35 pm to
Depends what comes out and what DOJ knew when.

I know that if I’m Van Grack tonight, my butthole is puckering way more than Mike Flynn’s is.
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