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re: Judge orders Trump administration to halt indiscriminate immigration stops
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:45 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:45 am to Grumpy Nemesis
I haven't seen any verification that someone was pulled over 'for being brown'.
That smacks of playing the last card in your hand: racially motivated.
You are either legal or illegal.
Legal, you can stay here.
Illegal, go back to square one and enter legally.
Simple.
That smacks of playing the last card in your hand: racially motivated.
You are either legal or illegal.
Legal, you can stay here.
Illegal, go back to square one and enter legally.
Simple.
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:50 am to WonderWartHawg
quote:
I haven't seen any verification that someone was pulled over 'for being brown
Well I highly doubt they're pulling over a bunch of Scandinavian looking people to check their immigration status. But regardless of why they're pulling them over you're supposed to have an actual expected crime of the particular individual you're stopping to pull them over. At least that's the way the United States has worked for my whole life. And nobody fricking hates liberals more than me trust me
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:57 am to evil cockroach
I think the Judge should personally show up in DC and serve Trump with a warrant.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:03 am to Grumpy Nemesis
quote:
are you listening to yourself? In the United States of America you think that we should be okay with the police just randomly pulling us over because we happen to be in some proximity to a place that some people commit crimes?
The other option is people dying in the back of a box truck because the police didn’t pull them over sooner.
You either want them to stop trafficking at the border or you don’t.
quote:
an actual expected crime
The crimes would be things like drug trafficking and human trafficking.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 8:06 am
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:19 am to Grumpy Nemesis
quote:
Honestly I have to say that no matter how much we support immigration enforcement we should still support the 4th amendment. And pulling people over on the highways just because they are brown is pretty much the definition of not supporting the Fourth Amendment.
Is that what they are doing, though? I doubt it.
They do have to make stops and check. You can’t get enforcement against illegal immigration without that, and there is nothing wrong with that.
As an example, if ICE is working in an area with lots of illegals, and they know that illegals make up a large portion of lawn care workers, they might stop trucks pulling trailers with lawn mowers on it. It is likely that a lot of these will be brown people (please note that I did not capitalize “brown”). And this is perfectly okay; it does not violate the fourth amendment.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:22 am to evil cockroach
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Judge Maame E. Frimpong
Biden appointee. Been a judge for 3 fricking years.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:28 am to Dizz
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No not at all like DWI check points which have to be announced days in advanced.
Raids/deportations have been announced for months. Told to self deport or get wrapped up in raids. Either way you gots to go. So plenty notice has been given, so can't use that as an excuse.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:33 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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Well I highly doubt they're pulling over a bunch of Scandinavian looking people to check their immigration status.
Do we have a large illegal Scandinavian problem we haven't heard about on tPT?? I know we are accused of being a racist echo chamber, so please let us know. I'm sure we'll have an opinion of how they "got to get out"
You people are just wanting to not enforce the law. For whatever your personal reasons are, but don't think you are fooling anyone with your fake pro-American cloak.
Just because you lefties ignore laws for so long, don't get upset when they finally are.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 8:35 am
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:45 am to Grumpy Nemesis
quote:
Okay then what are the criteria
It could be related to vehicle registration records and then matching the listed owner as an illegal immigrant.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:52 am to Grumpy Nemesis
quote:
But as bad as they are they still don't amount to just randomly grabbing people on the street and pulling them over
This is EXACTLY what a DUI checkpoint does.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:57 am to HagaDaga
quote:So, in your view, if you are an actual American of hispanic descent, you should just expect that you'll have to be stopped for no reason whatsoever so they can check you?
Do we have a large illegal Scandinavian problem we haven't heard about on tPT?? I know we are accused of being a racist echo chamber, so please let us know. I'm sure we'll have an opinion of how they "got to get out"
Have you thought that through?
quote:Dude, I'm one of the most pro immigration enforcement people you'll find. I'm not even REMOTELY sympathetic to all the sob stories about deportations and if there's anyone to actually blame for them, it's the liberals who opened the fricking flood gates in the first place.
You people are just wanting to not enforce the law.
But I am ALSO a huge proponent of our Bill of Rights and the right to not be fricked with by my government unless the government has a reason to believe that SPECIFICALLY I have committed, am committing, or will commit a crime.
quote:Hey people. This dude thinks I'm a lefty. Wanting the 4th Preserved is NOT supporting ignoring the law. If we can manage to deport 100% of illegals, it would be a massive positive.
Just because you lefties ignore laws for so long, don't get upset when they finally are.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:59 am to dgnx6
quote:If the police have a reason to believe the box truck is full of illegals, pull it over. Otherwise, what? You just want the cops pulling over people because they happen to be driving a box truck???
The other option is people dying in the back of a box truck because the police didn’t pull them over sooner.
quote:I 100% support inspecting box trucks AT THE BORDER.
You either want them to stop trafficking at the border or you don’t.
That's not what this discussion is about.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:01 am to MFn GIMP
quote:Well, this would be "reasonable articulable suspicion" and I'm fine with that.
It could be related to vehicle registration records
Let's be blunt here. That's not what people in this thread are supporting.
But yeah. If the cops run a plate and something seems off, pull the fricker over. I'm fine with that.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:02 am to Grumpy Nemesis
quote:
So, in your view, if you are an actual American of hispanic descent, you should just expect that you'll have to be stopped for no reason whatsoever so they can check you?
Have you thought that through?
Not sure where this is happening. But I'm all for more profiling if ice has to go somewhere and all get checked. If you are there, and good then you have nothing to worry about. People need to blame Democrats for flooding the zone requiring this level of response the majority voted for.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:02 am to soonerinlOUisiana
quote:And, they're total bullshite. Worse, they don't even actually work.
This is EXACTLY what a DUI checkpoint does.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:03 am to HagaDaga
quote:
But I'm all for more profiling
Definitely a sentence uttered by someone who....
1. Has no chance of being profiled
2. Would have a massive case of the arse if suddenly, his group was profiled.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:03 am to Grumpy Nemesis
But they’re legal. Maybe you just don’t possess the brilliant legal mind that you think you do, counselor.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:07 am to Grumpy Nemesis
You can assume all you want, but if I was knowingly in a group that is subject to inspection via profiling, then I can't complain for getting wrapped up in it.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:09 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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against unreasonable searches and seizures,
quote:
It really isn't any better in relation to the Fourth Amendment
do you actually 4th ...bruh?
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:12 am to dafif
quote:Yes, I do
do you actually 4th ...bruh?
quote:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
And, we have LONG determined that for it to be REASONABLE, the govrernment has to have REASONABLE ARTICULABLE SUSPICIOUS ABOUT YOU SPECIFICALLY to frick with you...............damn. Learn something
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