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re: Judge orders DOJ to turn over grand jury materials to James Comey, cites ‘disturbing patte

Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:18 pm to
Interesting.

Seems BBONDS was right. No one knows what is going to happen.
Posted by JimEverett
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:23 pm to
Anyone have a link to the government's motion for a hold on releasing the GJ files? I find this interesting if only because people are presenting it as such a train wreck.

Found it and right off the bat it does not look good

This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:48 pm to
Interesting section from Comey's response

quote:

Moreover, with respect to the presentment, the affidavit Ms. Halligan voluntarily presented raised significant concerns about whether the operative indictment was actually presented to the grand jury, and if so, by whom. The logical conclusion from Ms. Halligan’s declaration is that no one from the government presented a new indictment to the grand jury after it issued a no bill. Ms. Halligan’s declaration attests that she did not reappear before the grand jury upon learning of the grand jury’s vote to no bill the indictment she presented between 2:18PM and 4:28PM. See ECF No. 188-1 at 2 (“During the intermediary time, between concluding my presentation and being notified of the grand jury’s return, I had no interaction whatsoever with any members of the grand jury.”). And, importantly, she asserts that “the transcript accurately reflects the entirety of the government’s presentation and presence in front of the grand jury. There was no additional presentation, interaction, or discussion with the grand jury outside of what is reflected in the transcript.” ECF No. 188-1 at 1 (emphasis added). If no one from the government presented the operative indictment, as logically follows from Ms. Halligan’s own assertions and her ultimate handing up of a purported indictment that differs from the one partially no true billed, then the grand jury did not vote on it. See ECF No. 193 at 17-18.


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Posted by JimEverett
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:53 pm to
Yeah, that is what I saw earlier from the Judge.


EDIT: Could she really have filed an indictment that was not actually true billed by the GJ?
If so, bye bye law license.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:03 pm to
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" an indictment looking for a crime" may have been the actual wording.



You mean like what happened to Donald Trump?
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:03 pm to
It's looking like it may not have been represented to the grand jury after the partial no-bill.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 6:04 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

EDIT: Could she really have filed an indictment that was not actually true billed by the GJ?
If so, bye bye law license.


They can't be THAT dumb. I just can't believe it.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:12 pm to
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They can't be THAT dumb. I just can't believe it.


She may have thought she wasn’t going to get caught. I hope there is an innocent explanation for it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:20 pm to
They were rushed for time and were previously playing fast and loose with old/new versions of evidence. I have to think it was just a mistake, like an assumption.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:24 pm to
Fast and loose says libertarian muh process bro
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:32 pm to
Order

Stayed but for less than the week the Gov wanted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:33 pm to
"considered on the papers" = just briefs no oral arguments?
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:37 pm to
It's fancy.
Posted by Bama Mountain
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Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:36 am to
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Posting from a place of complete ignorance.


Trump's lawyer agrees with me. Halligan is completely incompetent.

quote:

Magistrate Judge [William] Fitzpatrick’s opinion today will be taught in law schools for 50 years as the epitome of prosecutorial misconduct.“
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 9:39 am
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