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re: John Oliver - Last Week Tonight - "Rehab"
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:30 am to bmy
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:30 am to bmy
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Monarchies are an effective form of government too. How many are dead at the hands of monarchism?
Feel free to post up the number of dead at the hands of monarchism in the last 100 years. We'll compare.
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Does it trigger you that other forms of government can be effective?
I don't get triggered, at all. I just think it's sad that otherwise intelligent people could speak positively about a form of government where the answer to dealing with those who disagree with it is to kill them. Effective? No doubt. Also evil.
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:30 am to OMLandshark
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But they are a small homogenous society for the most part. There's no way socialism could ever work in a country like the United States or China.
I agree but plutocracy is shitty too. Somewhere in the middle always seems best
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:31 am to bmy
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How many are dead at the hands of monarchism?
Monarchies have been around for thousands of years, and if there were any way to calculate the deaths directly from that form of government, I'd bet it doesn't come to 100 million.
Socialism/Communism produced over 100 million in less than a century. What a success story. How effective!
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:33 am to troyt37
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Feel free to post up the number of dead at the hands of monarchism in the last 100 years. We'll compare.
If you go back 105 years, It is 15 to 20 million. Plus if you want to add in WWII Japan, then we've got another 20 million at least, maybe even as high as 50 million.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 10:36 am
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:34 am to troyt37
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Feel free to post up the number of dead at the hands of monarchism in the last 100 years. We'll compare.
Picking and choosing timeframes
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I don't get triggered, at all. I just think it's sad that otherwise intelligent people could speak positively about a form of government where the answer to dealing with those who disagree with it is to kill them. Effective? No doubt. Also evil.
Lets not pretend our democracy has clean hands.. or that capitalism does either. Reality is that the powerful have always preyed on the weak
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:34 am to Sidicous
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Nope and nope. I'm still smh at your 1st response to the the situation being Big Government: " The interesting part is how this industry is non-regulated ". Oh lawdamercy, the government doesn't control and regulate some facet of life, the economy, international affairs! The sky be fallen, the sky be fallen!
What a great angle to take. Maybe we could just delete the all regulations pertaining to Public Health. That's the entire 42 Code of Federal Regulations. Just delete that whole thing. What a great idea!!
No idea why we need some regulations on how to medically treat people, patients' rights, how hospitals are operated, or handling emergency health crisis, etc.
Would've been better if you would have shut the frick up rather than posting.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 10:39 am
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:38 am to bmy
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I think you answered it yourself. Its worth mentioning that our own country has quite a few socialist programs..
Yep, and most of those socialized programs are inefficient and poorly ran.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:39 am to VOR
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Passages Malibu
My understanding is places like this are just "drying out" locations. Success stories from here don't have an addiction that drives them back to use.
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I have a client who needs to find a good place soon
If the family has the money I'd look at Europe.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:48 am to bmy
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Picking and choosing timeframes
Yeah, you know, the timeframe that pretty much includes the existence of all socialist/communist governments?
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Reality is that the powerful have always preyed on the weak
And the reality that you want to dismiss so desperately is that socialism/communism does this on a scale never before seen in the history of mankind.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:49 am to OMLandshark
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Plus if you want to add in WWII Japan, then we've got another 20 million at least, maybe even as high as 50 million.
Japan killed 20-50 million?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:56 am to troyt37
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Japan killed 20-50 million?
Yeah, most Americans think the worst thing the Japanese did was bomb Pearl Harbor.... that isn't in the Top 10. It's not even fricking close. At least that was a military base. Really the Nazis were just charming (especially to the West) compared to the Japanese, and the entire royal family over 18 should have been killed for it: Japanese war crimes
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:02 am to bmy
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Dude is smack dab in the center and calls out both sides
Uh Huh..
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:06 am to OMLandshark
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Yeah, most Americans think the worst thing the Japanese did was bomb Pearl Harbor.... that isn't in the Top 10.
From your own link:
"Historical estimates of the number of deaths ranges between 3[2] and 14[3] million civilians and prisoners of war through massacre, human experimentation, starvation, and forced labor that was either directly perpetrated or condoned by the Japanese military and government."
Helluva lot of difference between 3 to 14 million, and 20 to 50 million.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:14 am to OMLandshark
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Plus if you want to add in WWII Japan, then we've got another 20 million at least, maybe even as high as 50 million.
If the Japanese imperial government killed 20 to 50 million of their own citizens as a result of government policies, I'd consider that relevant to the discussion.
Edit: Domestic policies, I should have said, as was the case in the USSR and China.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 11:21 am
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:22 am to OMLandshark
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You forgot the Chinese soldiers. 14 million is the civilian count. LINK
So then we can include the other 40 million or so dead in WW2 on the socialist side for Hitler and the Nazis?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:27 am to troyt37
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So then we can include the other 40 million or so dead in WW2 on the socialist side for Hitler and the Nazis?
Well and the Communists. The Western Front wasn't shite compared to the Pacific and certainly the Eastern Front. The Japanese were very creatively horrible to the countries they invaded, but around half or more of the casualties of the war total. The Eastern Front fricking sucked.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:36 am to i am dan
That was brutal. He's missing his calling by going into political discourse. He should stick with topics like this.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:14 pm to Bard
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That was brutal. He's missing his calling by going into political discourse. He should stick with topics like this.
Yeah, his non-political segments are pretty good. His segment on TV evangelists is really good too.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:30 pm to i am dan
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Yep, and most of those socialized programs are inefficient and poorly ran.
By running them better you make them more efficient..
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