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re: John Deere has done questionable things
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:02 am to PalletJack
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:02 am to PalletJack
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This company has been left leaning to fully leftist. Odd for a company selling products to farmers. Now they have the NYT writing articles bemoaning how Trump policies hurt them. I despise both Deere and NYT
It's a publicly traded company, now owned mostly by BlackRock etc. That's all BlackRock ESG bullshite. Same with Harley etc. BlackRock "forcing behaviors."
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:25 am to tide06
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If they’re an “American” company why would a tariff on goods impact them?
The previously mentioned 5000 series tractors assembled in Georgia... they used to just make the cheaper E version in India and the Ms and Rs were still assembled in GA, but they discontinued the Rs & now all of the 5000 series (50-135hp utility tractors) are imported from India.
Kubota is good for smaller tractors, but their larger tractors are basically equivalent to entry level /E series JD. I think I'm looking at an AGCO for my next one, John Deere can go fly a kite.
ETA: a JD 5125M cab tractor with a loader is like $125-135k... these aren't homeowner purchases.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 10:30 am
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There are some things that are not practical to produce here
Because of all the regs we've placed on them.
Tarriffs are just evening that playing field since we can't reg how China handles it's labor/safety/environment.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:34 am to Diamondawg
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Where Deere separates itself is in the big stuff. Kubota just doesn't go there in a big way
It doesn't look like they plan to get into anything higher than 210 hp any time soon either. Although the M8 with the Cummins B6 is a beast for its intended purpose.
They found a niche market with the smaller more affordable tractors & it's paid off.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:35 am to Azkiger
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Because of all the regs we've placed on them.
And the cost of labor.
Dont forget that part.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:37 am to PalletJack
John Deere. More like John Queer. kek
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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And the cost of labor.
Offset by shipping across international seas.
The real issue are the regs.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:38 am to tide06
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who haven’t been concerned with the best interests of America, their workers or consumers for decades.
Companies are supposed to be concerned about the best interests of their shareholders. You know, the people who risked their money and bet on the company.
frick you commie pieces of shite.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There is nothing wrong with buying higher value foreign goods to force American companies to compete.
Or we could just make everything overseas where slave and near slave like conditions in the work place are tolerated.
Nothing wrong with that!
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:44 am to timdonaghyswhistle
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Or we could just make everything overseas where slave and near slave like conditions in the work place are tolerated
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:58 am to HeadCall
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Publicly traded companies must bow to the biggest investors, BlackRock and Vanguard and the like. And those large investment funds must bow to their largest customers, the unions and pension funds of the government employees of NY and CA.
True. Companies not having high enough ESG scores miggt have trouble finding banking and/or capital.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:05 am to Rebel
quote:Probably not if he was alive to see how they are screwing their customers with that proprietary bullshite they've adopted. They've made it so that no one can work on their stuff but the dealership.
I know my grandpa would roll over in his grave if he knew I have Kabota.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:08 am to PalletJack
Under 26hp and you don't have emissions equipment or an ECM that locks everyone out.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:17 am to FredBear
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used to work in the Deere plant in Georgia that made the 4000 and 5000 series tractors and they no longer strive for quality, it's all about building them as cheaply as possible with the cheapest parts possible. Your Kabota is a much better choice considering what you get vs how much you spent, believe me
Yea Deere sucks now. They ain’t making em with the quality of a 4020 or 4840 these days
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:19 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Companies are supposed to be concerned about the best interests of their shareholders. You know, the people who risked their money and bet on the company.
Ok we’ll just as every other nation does, America is free to set trade and tax guidelines to encourage optimized outcomes for their citizens so that’s exactly what Trump is doing.
The end result will be that the optimized decisions for John Deere will be to produce as many of their components here as possible.
Nothing communist about setting trade and incentives to benefit your own interests.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:20 am to tide06
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Nothing communist about setting trade and incentives to benefit your own interests.
And that's where you're wrong, bucko.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I guess it depends on how you SJWs define "slave labor" now. It seems to keep changing.
You can’t even be honest about China using slave labor.
There’s no point arguing with someone who refuses to acknowledge basic facts.
And I’m cracking up at the idea that condemning slave labor is somehow “SJW”. Just take the L.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:23 am to JohnnyKilroy
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And that's where you're wrong, bucko.
Haha have you ever taken an economics class?
Every nation in the history of history has optimized trade policy in their interests until America went globalist and accepted unfathomable trade imbalances that gutted our entire economy and generated wartime levels of debt.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:25 am to tide06
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until America went globalist
I bet you folks protested like hell when Rush Limbaugh went full globalist promoting Mahindra tractors on his show.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:26 am to tide06
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You can’t even be honest about China using slave labor.
Define slave labor.
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