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re: Joe Kent just potentially derailed prosecutor case against Kirk assassin

Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Did you even read the words you quoted or did you just interpret and dot connect?


As I told the other person, they have no way of knowing that whatever he has to say won't be relevant. Or will be relevant. But the argument was made that it is irrelevant - period - and that therefore it shouldn't be allowed.

This is what the trial is for.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 1:21 pm
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

But I also stated that I hope he does testify


Ok then. I'm glad you agree that the text I quoted to you is idiotic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

As I told the other person, they have no way of knowing that whatever he has to say won't be relevant.


That isn't really responsive to quoting this

quote:

There would be great harm in someone testifying that has no relevant information whatsoever that is verifiable or first hand to the crime itself\


The irrelevance is baked into the words.

The comment is limited to non-relevant information. Any commentary of the words typed must be limited therein.

You're trying to change what they said to argue with the presupposition that already exists.

quote:

But the argument was made that it is irrelevant - period - and that therefore it shouldn't be allowed.


Holy fricking shite
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128758 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:22 pm to
But the poster didn’t argue that he shouldn’t be able to testify if he has relevant information.

As you are dishonestly pretending just as you are usually arguing in bad faith with dumb arguments, little foundation and usually made up facts.

“EriKa kiRk mEt wiTh the ArKansAs chApteR of TurNinG PoinT!”
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11514 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:23 pm to
At the end of the day this is still the US and a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. If a defendant believes that someone's testimony can help their case, they are afforded the right to have that testimony heard. Anyone arguing otherwise is behaving in a manner incongruent with our laws.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128758 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

I'm glad you agree that the text I quoted to you is idiotic.


I agree with everyone who has the misfortune of dealing with you that you’re intellectually stunted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:24 pm to
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If a defendant believes that someone's testimony can help their case, they are afforded the right to have that testimony heard.

Just so you know, this is not a universal truth.

Defendants are limited in all sorts of ways in trying to introduce testimony that can be offered for their defense at trial. We have entire codes of evidence for these disputes.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 1:25 pm
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

As you are dishonestly pretending


No. In fact, the opposite is true. The other poster was dishonestly pretending that whatever it is he has to say will be immaterial. They have no way of knowing that and neither do you, by your own admission. Neither one of you fricking know.

quote:

bad faith with dumb arguments, little foundation and usually made up facts.


More ad hom. You still have no argument and this bullshite you keep pulling makes that crystal clear.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

No. In fact, the opposite is true. The other poster was dishonestly pretending that whatever it is he has to say will be immaterial.


You cannot read.

Is English your third language?
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Joe Kent says he is skeptical that Tyler Robinson, who confessed to killing Charlie Kirk, was the lone shooter. That accusation could undermine the prosecutors’ case against Robinson.


This doesn’t even make sense: There was maybe a second shooter so I guess we just have to let him go since he wasn’t alone.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11514 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

You cannot read.

Is English your third language?


quote:

I doubt virtually anything that he would "testify" to would be admissible


And this became the position that user argues from. Even after it being pointed out that he has no way of knowing this.

More ad hom.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

I doubt virtually anything that he would "testify" to would be admissible

Different words than the quoted language we were discussing

Dishonest to the core

Here is the actual quoted language

quote:

How would he testify if his testimony is inadmissible

There would be great harm in someone testifying that has no relevant information whatsoever that is verifiable or first hand to the crime itself


LINK for citation

Why change the language being discussed to something else?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95576 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:30 pm to
1. It's likely on purpose,

B. Frankly, jurors aren't quite that stupid
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42114 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

I think the mere fact that he says he wants to testify says otherwise.


Go watch the last 30 minutes of the show today. Starts around 1:34:00

Andrew had Michael Shellenburger on discussing his interview of Joe Kent.

Joe is a grade A piece of shite for doing this.

https://rumble.com/v77k3h8-ice-airport-mop-up-joe-kent-and-tyler-robinson-homan-markers-cozzetto-shell.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a




Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11514 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Dishonest to the core


Yes, you are.

quote:

No. In fact, the opposite is true. The other poster was dishonestly pretending that whatever it is he has to say will be immaterial.



You cannot read.

Is English your third language?


What I just quoted to you that you're now responding to was when the other user made up their mind that anything he has to say would be immaterial even after it was pointed out that he has no way of knowing that.

THEN he went from that starting point, ignored the point that he has no way of knowing that, and claimed that his testimony would be irrelevant and therefore cause "great harm" in the trial.

Thereby establishing what I said initially. That people are arguing for him to be silenced.

Do try to keep up.

Again, if you really are a "lawyer" you have to be one of the worst lawyers ever.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Defendants are limited in all sorts of ways in trying to introduce testimony that can be offered for their defense at trial. We have entire codes of evidence for these disputes.


Codes authored by them, to make sure their plans aren't exposed to public light.

Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33718 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

We are not here to litigate the trial. We are discussing whether someone is a "shite stain" for saying he would testify in a trial. Someone who very well may have information that is pertinent to said trial due to the nature of his fricking job as former head of counterintelligence.


Blah blah blah, cliffs notes everyone.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:35 pm to
I've broken it down and made it as simple as it can get.

I don't know if it's sadder that you think you're making points or that multiple other people with your intellectual/logical issues (who now dominate this board) will read your incoherent and dishonest ramblings and think you "won".
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11514 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:35 pm to
You losing is nothing new, man. Everyone here sees it every day.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:36 pm to
Proving my point in real time
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