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re: JD Vance: President Trump and I will not stand for it.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:28 pm to GamecockUltimate
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:28 pm to GamecockUltimate
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another one that doesnt understand due process....how do you prove someone isnt a US citizen....ahh yes...due process
A court proceeding is not necessarily required to satisfy due process. Immigration courts are administrative proceedings.
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:30 pm to SDVTiger
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Thats wonderful. They arent listening to that anymore
Just like how you dems didnt follow the constitution the last 40yrs
Firstly, cite when dems didnt follow the constitution, dont just spout that they havent for 40 years.
and when you do...ill agree that the dems fricked up.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:31 pm to BBONDS25
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A court proceeding is not necessarily required to satisfy due process. Immigration courts are administrative proceedings.
its still due process, even that is something that Vance and many in this thread don't believe that aliens are afforded under the constitution
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:33 pm to TheMonTSteR
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COLLOSSAL stupidity.
The Constitution begins with, "We the People." Not:
- "We the Globe"
- "We the Illegal Immigrants"
Due process is for citizens. Period. If you've trespassed on US soil, you should be forcibly escorted to the border and told not to come back, or else -- do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
point in case of my post just above...
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:34 pm to oklahogjr
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Loves America but not the constitution...gotcha
You are a straight up liar.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:41 pm to oklahogjr
Quit trying to cloak yourself in rationalized righteousness and just admit you support the machinations because you believe 95% of the illegals should be allowed to remain in the US.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:43 pm to GamecockUltimate
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its still due process, even that is something that Vance and many in this thread don't believe that aliens are afforded under the constitution
Does the Secretary of State have the discretion to revoke someone’s visa without a court proceeding? (Hint: the answer is clearly yes). So what you are saying is that someone here legally on a visa can be removed without due process, but someone here illegally cannot. Is that your argument?
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:48 pm to cmac5125
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What I don’t understand is how an illegal alien is entitled to what the constitution affords our citizens—due process.
The Constitution doesn't provide our rights any more than the gov't does. God provides every man with rights. The role of the gov't and Constitution is to protect those rights.
I don't have any problems with deportations. I have a problem with selling unconvicted gang members to an El Salvadoran hell hole. Just like I have a problem with infinitely imprisoning unconvicted terrorists at Gitmo. Everyone should have a problem with this.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:49 pm to troyt37
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should hurt to be this stupid.
How are his tarrifs to bring industries back to the American economy that have left not central planning? he's targeting specific sectors and focused on growing them via government protection from the global market.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 1:10 pm to Aubie Spr96
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have a problem with selling unconvicted gang members to an El Salvadoran hell hole.
Why is El Salvador jailing him? And an immigration court is administrative. Why would you need a conviction?
Posted on 4/16/25 at 1:16 pm to oklahogjr
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How are his tarrifs to bring industries back to the American economy that have left not central planning? he's targeting specific sectors and focused on growing them via government protection from the global market.
I know I'm wasting my time, but I'll reply once. If you think the tariffs, or the threat of tariffs are that simply explained, you're either stupid, ignorant, or retarded. I'll let you pick.
Other countries have generationally abused the American producers with tariffs, which also abuses American consumers. It is this abuse that is being addressed by the Tariffs Trump is imposing upon other countries. many countries have recognized this abuse, and have reformed their strategies, opening up their markets to American goods and producers, while enjoying reduced tariffs on their goods being exported to the US.
Some countries want to continue the abuse. And although somewhat painful to the American consumer in the short term, this is the only way to stop the abuse, and must be done. If you don't understand it, just shut up and sit back. Your bacon will be saved right along with the rest of the idiots.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:23 pm to GamecockUltimate
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"Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
It's nothing more than sheer stupidity to think this applies to people who entered the country illegally. The globalists are only able to wield power thanks to useful idiots like yourself.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:32 pm to oklahogjr
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Loves America but not the constitution...gotcha
You do realize that the constitution was written by settlers and for settlers and American citizens. Not by immigrants or for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:55 pm to _Hurricane_
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I have my own problems with the Framers and their intent, but….
I can guarantee you they didn’t intend Ahmed Muslim #3002 to have a third hearing in front a lesbian judge before being deported.
I can guarantee you that they were in favor of open borders. The first immigration laws didn't come about until all the Framers were dead and gone.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:15 pm to oklahogjr
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Loves America but not the constitution...gotcha
Constitution is flawed.
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