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Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:43 pm to John Barron
Got into it w/ my ultra-liberal mom this morning - she claims those videos are Russian propaganda. She was literally about to disown me 
Posted on 3/2/25 at 5:43 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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What you and the Eurocucks are really saying is you want American boots on the ground, you’re just too chickenshit to admit it publicly.
We don’t want boots on the ground, we want Ukrainians to have the weapons so they can inflict as much pain on Russianto the point where they say they’ve had enough and go home. Kinda like what happened to us in Afghanistan and Vietnam. (Both had far fewer fighters)
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:05 pm to aero1126
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They are picking up people who defy draft orders.
Picking up people who don’t want to fight, so that’s okay, right?
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:07 pm to aero1126
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Kinda like what happened to us in Afghanistan and Vietnam. (Both had far fewer fighters)
Those were imbedded ambush wars deep in dangerous terrain. Ukraine doesn’t have that advantage.
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we want Ukrainians to have the weapons so they can inflict as much pain on Russianto the point where they say they’ve had enough and go home
No. We want the war to be over. Just like the Ukrainian people do.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:09 pm to djsdawg
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Picking up people who don’t want to fight, so that’s okay, right?
If you disagree with it that’s fine, but you better be out criticizing every other country who enforces draft laws (including our own).
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:09 pm to aero1126
Maybe Ukraine needs to quit selling the weapons we have for pennies on the dollar.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:14 pm to djsdawg
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No. We want the war to be over. Just like the Ukrainian people do
You’re right, they do want it over. That’s only happens one or two ways:
1. Cause Russia enough pain for them to leave.
2. Provide them with guarantees in exchange for a ceasefire.
What you guys aren’t getting is that Ukrainians are very aware that Russia doesn’t honor agreements unless they are forced to. This is the 2nd time they’ve tried to take Ukrainian territory and they’ve broken many cease fires along the way. This isn’t complicated.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:18 pm to John Barron
JD doing work for Russia and North Korea
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:22 pm to aero1126
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We don’t want boots on the ground, we want Ukrainians to have the weapons so they can inflict as much pain on Russianto the point where they say they’ve had enough and go home. Kinda like what happened to us in Afghanistan and Vietnam. (Both had far fewer fighters)
How many times do you dumbasses have to be told that this isn’t going to happen? Ukraine doesn’t have the men to do that. The only thing that would help Ukraine is more soldiers, so unless your pussy arse is committed to that, you’re pissing in the wind.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:37 pm to lake chuck fan
quote:Would that make Putin leave Ukraine?
Things would be better for Ukraine if Zylinski would disappear.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:37 pm to aero1126
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You’re right, they do want it over. That’s only happens one or two ways: 1. Cause Russia enough pain for them to leave. 2. Provide them with guarantees in exchange for a ceasefire.
1. Pro forever war
2. Peace
You can’t be for both
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:53 pm to Diamondawg
Also, they’re losing a ton of men due to desertion.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:55 pm to John Barron
quote:"revealed?"
JD Vance has revealed Ukraine's lack of Manpower
Do you think it was some big secret?
Every knowledgeable person on the planet understands that Ukraine has manpower shortages.
For a decade, Trumpists have acted like Trump is revealing some manna from heaven, every time he spouts some commonly-known fact. Are we now transferring that hero-worship to Vance?
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:56 pm to aero1126
Driving around and physically kidnapping people off the streets isn’t a draft.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:00 pm to TigersSEC2010
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This was proven to be fake.
By "proven to be fake" do you mean some media mouthpiece said this video has been "debunked" or is there literal, tangible, proof of its lack of authenticity?
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 5:47 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:01 pm to John Barron
From what I understand, Ukraine doesn’t have a veterans administration nor a VA hospital. So if you get wounded forcibly fighting for your country and survive, you’re probably SOL for the rest of your life.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:08 pm to coldbeerfan
quote:Ukraine has a system of "universal health care" ... or "socialized medicine," if you will.
From what I understand, Ukraine doesn’t have a veterans administration nor a VA hospital. So if you get wounded forcibly fighting for your country and survive, you’re probably SOL for the rest of your life.
Anyone wounded in the war will have health care for the rest of his life.
Now, whether that is GOOD health care is a separate question, but the same question has been asked of the VA.
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 8:10 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:14 pm to John Barron
A hundred years ago the forced impressment of someone was referred to as being "shangheid". I wonder if the modern iteration of this will become to "be Kyived".
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:28 pm to aero1126
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we want Ukrainians to have the weapons so they can inflict as much pain on Russia to the point where they say they’ve had enough and go home
This will NEVER happen. It’s not reality. This is a lost cause war for Ukraine.
Zelensky doesn’t want it to end because he wouldn’t be president for very much longer after it does. It’s a power move.
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