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re: Jamie Dimon believes U.S. debt is the ‘most predictable crisis’ in history

Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:46 pm to
RE isn’t necessarily the bubble I meant.

Debt is its own bubble which is about to pop. And it is connected here because the RE bubble popping in 2008 caused a massive credit crunch which ground the economy to a halt.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:52 pm to
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My head is on a swivel bc I’m worried they see the writing on the wall with the election and are just going to finally let the economy crash when Trump gets into office.


They said this last time about Trump.

I know Biden is rigging numbers which will eventually harm us, but the govt isn’t going to stop.

Debt is relative, will never go down and will continue to increase. Even if you paid it down, like most want on here, it would just go up. Paying off the debt or cutting back isn’t going to be beneficial anyways imo.
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
356 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:17 pm to
Maybe his is correct this time, but look up other Dimon predictions. He is almost always negative. That guy convinced me several years ago the market was going to crash. Went to cash in my 401k and missed out on a great market run.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 5:56 pm to
What’s amazing is how much waste we could eliminate and it wouldn’t affect Americans one iota.

Budget Deficit was 1.7T last year

Defense was 780 billion. Defense is important, but the next country that spends anywhere near us is China with a defense budget of 290bn. I’d say we could cut ours to 500bn and still be plenty effective

We have sent 75Bn to Ukraine. Not necessary, not our problem.

We spend around 70bn a year in foreign aid. Also not necessary

Estimated around 240bn a year in inproper payments made by govt. This seems easy to clean up if we tried.

So now we have the deficit to around 1T without harming any citizens. Now you look at benefits/entitlements. These account for near 60% of our expenses and will account for most of the expense growth over the next decade as boomers retire.

Let’s look at simple solutions first:

1. Eliminate all benefits and aid to illegal immigrants. They’re illegal, they shouldn’t get handouts. Not a huge number but an easy cut imo.

2. Raise the Social Security age. This should help a good bit and has been needed for some time.

3. Reform welfare to where it provides a safety net but encourages people to get work. Combined benefits should add up to less than a 10 dollar an hour full time job.

Total entitlement spending is near 4 trillion. Just a 25% cut balances the budget.

Or you could cut entitlements 15% and possibly reform the tax code to cover the rest. While higher taxes aren’t popular I’d wager most would accept it as long as all of the above happened too in order to balance the budget.

It’s all out of control and everyone needs to accept a little cut or pain now to prevent a whole lot of pain/economic crash later. Because it cannot be avoided, we will pay for it one way or another eventually. It’s better to manage the pain now than let it take control on its own and destroy us
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 5:56 pm to

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Defense was 780 billion. Defense is important, but the next country that spends anywhere near us is China with a defense budget of 290bn. I’d say we could cut ours to 500bn and still be plenty effective


Yeah I dont thin our current budget is defensible. its so out or proportion.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14204 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:07 pm to
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Both Parties are equally Dysfunctional.
Both Parties are Morally Corrupt
Both parties are Fiscally irresponsible, driven by greed and the lust for power
Neither party gives a phuck about the American citizen

The rich elitist, on both sides, are in total control of America
Everything else, Covid, Global warming, Ukraine, Climate change, is all Media driven bullshite, sponsored by the rich to keep the people occupied and divided.

America is in deep shite.

All this points to a massive war. Tale as old as time.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60686 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:12 pm to
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The GOPe openly abandoned fiscal conservatism in 1980 and hasn’t looked back.


FIFY

I get that Ronnie went deep into debt to buy his way out of the 70's oil shocks but no (D) or (R) POTUS has not gone deeper since.

Shame on all of them.
Posted by roothog1
Member since Apr 2021
44 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:31 pm to
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Maybe his is correct this time, but look up other Dimon predictions. He is almost always negative. That guy convinced me several years ago the market was going to crash. Went to cash in my 401k and missed out on a great market run.


You are a pleb, you aren't meant to follow Dimon's advice. He makes these statements for money managers & liberal elites who do listen to him and react accordingly.

This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 9:32 pm
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