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re: Jacksonville Police investigate themselves and, as per usual, find themselves not-guilty

Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47737 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:10 pm to
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And finally a cop who apparently is so shitty at his job that he fricked up huge enough that they couldn't even make charges stick against a guy who probably isn't a very good dude. This cop is so fricking incompetent that in a situation between him and the guy who clearly isn't at the top of society the government is going to be forced to pay the civilian due to the police officers incompetence



the cop is evil


you say he's "shitty and incompetent."


he's fricking evil
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17720 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:15 pm to
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He was a good boy


Lol

Give him some money

He'll be killed in a drive by within 6 months anyway.
Posted by mailman85
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2013
174 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:19 pm to
shite head cops sure were "protecting and serving".. fricking ridiculous how the Police continually fail to do their job.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154831 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:23 pm to
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The cop "needs more training" because of that?


Don’t be a SDV and put words into my mouth.

I never said what he needs or doesn’t need.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13549 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:50 am to
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nd since I jumped in this thread not a single one of you numb-nuts can point to anything that says you don't have to comply, other than your retarded imaginations and wishful thinking.

Still waiting...



Once again. The Bill of Rights.


it's not your beloved leftist case law. Poor baby.


Yeah and once again you failed to show us where in the Bill of Rights it says you can tell a cop to F off and drive or walk away from him, because YOU think he's wrong.

As for case law, you can't possibly but that stupid. All laws, including the Constitution and the BiIl of Rights are interpreted by the courts one way or another, otherwise the Constitution wouldn't have established the judiciary in the first place moron.

And even though SCOTUS has final say, once you cut and past from the Bill of Rights the part where it says you can refuse to obey a cops commands whenever you want, don't worry about the SCOTUS decisions that say you're wrong and I'm right.

You talk a lot of shite, so back it up.

You're on the clock--6:50 a.m. CDT.


.




Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1473 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:52 am to
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Driving is a privilege


No, operating a vehicle that you own is absolutely a right. Driving on publicly funded roads is a privilege
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30617 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:56 am to
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The fact he wrote that and aren't embarrassed is telling


He aren't embarrassed is he?
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:58 am to
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He aren't embarrassed is he?

My near exclusive use of voice entry when on the phone bites me in the arse occasionally.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:00 am to
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Yeah and once again you failed to show us where in the Bill of Rights it says you can tell a cop to F off and drive or walk away from him, because YOU think he's wrong.


The same place the courts that have REPEATEDLY RULED in favor of such citizens are finding it. It's not a matter simply of if I think he's wrong. It's a matter of if he IS IN FACT wrong. When he is, the courts have REPEATEDLY ruled in favor of the citizen. You don't have to like it, but that's reality.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:03 am to
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The same place the courts that have REPEATEDLY RULED in favor of such citizens are finding it. It's not a matter simply of if I think he's wrong. It's a matter of if he IS IN FACT wrong. When he is, the courts have REPEATEDLY ruled in favor of the citizen. You don't have to like it, but that's reality.

And yet, you still have to provide ID/registration/insurance and step out of the vehicle when instructed.

Simply doing so would prevent 99.9% of these situations. This guys situation was entirely preventable on his end, even though the officer went way overboard. Just listen. It isn’t hard—but this guy got the internet attention he wanted I guess.

If the officer was wrong to stop you or detain you, it will be handled in court as you said.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:08 am to
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And yet, you still have to provide ID/registration/insurance and step out of the vehicle when instructed.

And yet, in hundreds of cases where the stop was illegal, the courts have ruled precisely the opposite. People ROUTINELY get charged with failure to provide these documents and then have the charges thrown out when the stop is shown to be unlawful. You should get out more.

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This guys situation was entirely preventable on his end,
I agree. He could have kissed more arse and gotten off. Alas, that doesn't change even one iota, the fact the cop is a lying over violent piece of shite. AND THAT is who we should care about.
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 7:09 am
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2011 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:30 am to
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You think that everything the police officer might say is a lawful order you must comply with? Well that's half your problem right there dummy


and that's why we have courts dex. grow up fool and register your car and get insurance and clean up those outstanding warrants be an adult and you won't have to worry about the police.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:38 am to
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and that's why we have courts dex

I get that you all think I'm Dex and I'm not going to convince you otherwise but since he's still apparently posts on this board what the frick point do you think there is? Anyways if it makes you feel better

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egister your car and get insurance and clean up those outstanding warrants be an adult and you won't have to worry about the police.
False
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2011 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:46 am to
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I get that you all think I'm Dex and I'm not going to convince you otherwise but since he's still apparently posts on this board what the frick point do you think there is? Anyways if it makes you feel better


that's because you are dex, you're not fooling anybody son. i'm sorry that you made your other profile so toxic that you can't use it anymore but that's your problem kid.

every anti cop person i've ever met life is a complete disaster. when's the last time you filed your taxes?

Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:50 am to
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that's because you are dex, you're not fooling anybody son

It's because it's so impossible to believe that two people could have similar ideas that disagree with you! LOL
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every anti cop person i've ever met life is a complete disaster. when's the last time you filed your taxes
every year. You're welcome
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 7:51 am
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2011 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:54 am to
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every year. You're welcome


doubtful, but the face tattoo's are a nice touch!
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:54 am to
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And yet, in hundreds of cases where the stop was illegal, the courts have ruled precisely the opposite. People ROUTINELY get charged with failure to provide these documents and then have the charges thrown out when the stop is shown to be unlawful. You should get out more.

Correct. Those tickets are thrown out regularly in cases like this where the stop is unlawful. You still have to comply in the moment. Your redress comes later. Not only is that the law, it’s also basic common sense behavior. There is nothing to gain from noncompliance with basic requests for ID etc.



Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:59 am to
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You still have to comply in the moment

If This Were true then the charges for failure to identify would not be thrown out. The very fact they are thrown out is affirmation that the driver was correct. Again most of you seem to be confusing what is advisable with what is legal. Sure. It's advisable that you go ahead and comply because the officer is going to be a fricking bully regardless. But if you don't comply you're still correct and if the court rules in your favor that proves you were
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:01 am to
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Correct. Those tickets are thrown out

Also I should add that it's not just the tickets that get thrown out. Typically in these cases the officers pile on the other charges. Failure to ID. Resisting. And others. And they all get thrown out. Which means they were all legal to do in the first place
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2011 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:04 am to
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If This Were true then the charges for failure to identify would not be thrown out. The very fact they are thrown out is affirmation that the driver was correct.


no child it's an affirmation that the system works dex, you can't fix your kind of stupid son.
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