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re: Jacksonville Police investigate themselves and, as per usual, find themselves not-guilty
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:11 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:11 pm to Indefatigable
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You’re just…wrong. You still have to listen and comply in giving your information or exiting the vehicle.
you just keep repeating the same crap
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Well my daughter isn’t a moron so unless it’s a marked vehicle with a uniformed officer that provides his name or identification, she’d call into either 911 or the local PD and ask before leaving the car.
have you discussed that with her? How does she know it's a marked car since it's behind her? What if she "does not comply" (since she's calling 911), and it's a real cop who smashes her window and sucker punches your daughter in the face?
Because the Jacksonville cop you're defending is a fricking criminal, regardless of if cowardly Jax Fl has the balls to prosecute him. How many other criminal cops are there?
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:15 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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you just keep repeating the same crap
And it’s completely true. It doesn’t matter whether you agree or disagree.
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have you discussed that with her?
Yes.
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How does she know it's a marked car since it's behind her?
She isn’t completely blind.
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What if she "does not comply" (since she's calling 911), and it's a real cop who smashes her window and sucker punches your daughter in the face?
That’s not happening in the first 90 seconds of a traffic stop.
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Because the Jacksonville cop you're defending is a fricking criminal, regardless of if cowardly Jax Fl has the balls to prosecute him. How many other criminal cops are there?
Not defending him whatsoever. Just pointed out that the driver is also a complete moron who could have prevented the entire situation by not being an attention-seeking idiot.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:16 pm to LSU7096
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Non compliant a-hole pulled over in traffic stop. He likely gets a traffic violation if he is compliant.
Another look at me thug piece of shite.
you fricking suck - I hope this happens to you.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:44 pm to Indefatigable
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All of that may be true.
You still have to comply with the order to get out.
Actually multiple courts have ruled that a citizen is not actually obligated to follow an unlawful order. Now of course people still advise that you do because the moron with a badge could kill you. But once being looked at after the fact the courts can and do throw out charges related to such a thing all of the time.
Heck they just ruled in favor not that long ago of a guy who not only resisted but shot at a female police officer who tried to arrest him illegally.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:46 pm to Indefatigable
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Indefatigable
So you've warned your daughter about criminal cops?
Should all fathers warn their daughters about criminal cops?
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:46 pm to Indefatigable
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Not defending him whatsoever. Just pointed out that the driver is also a complete moron
But why? The driver isn't being paid by taxpayer dollars. The driver isn't the threat to put you in jail. The driver isn't the threat to cause somebody's death do the incompetence or uncalled for bravado. The driver can't arrest you or your family. The driver isn't even really expected to know the law. Yet for some weird reason we act like we're talking about two people on equal footing when a police officer is involved. There's nothing remotely equal about the level of responsibility the individuals should be exercising. To think otherwise is completely insane
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:47 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
Are smart folks known for driving on a suspended license? Do smart folks generally get their licenses suspended?
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:49 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Indefatigable
I just think in a free country, we should have a reasonable expectation to not have to sit and worry about family members being beaten by criminal cops.
Also, people who claim to be conservatives should be the ones on the side of civil rights. Freedom.
We true conservatives are against tyrannical psychopaths being employed by the govt
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:51 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Should all fathers warn their daughters about criminal cops?
It's really not that different than teaching your daughter about the threat of rape. Of course the overwhelming majority of men aren't rapists. But for every man you don't know you should have assume there's at least the possibility that he is one. And practice due diligence accordingly. Then if she's dealing with a good guy he will just be a good guy but if she's dealing with a bad dude she's taking the proper precautions
Well politely exercising your rights and refusing to answer questions that you do not have to is the same. If you're dealing with a good cop then there's nothing to worry about. And if you're dealing with a bad cop then you kissing his arse wasn't going to make him not bad. The internet is completely overrun with videos of cops completely fricking people who are actually kissing arse. From fraudulent DUIs to Illegal searches and a whole host of other things.
Now I don't teach my kids to be jerks or anything. But if a cop asks you where you're coming from the answer is the direction you saw me coming from. And if the cop asks you where you're going the answer is in the general direction you saw me driving before you pulled me over. If a cop wants to know if you've been drinking the answer is I don't answer questions. And don't think the fact that you haven't been drinking will get you out of shite. I can link you to at least a dozen videos of completely sober people getting arrested for DUI.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:53 pm to roadGator
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Are smart folks known for driving on a suspended license? Do smart folks generally get their licenses suspended
Why are you asking me this? I think I've been pretty fricking clear that I don't give a God damn about the driver. I give a goddamn about police officers following the fricking law. You don't get your retroactively approval of the police officer's actions because he ended up finding stuff he didn't even know about before he engaged in shite policing. That's like a police officer randomly searching homes in a bad neighborhood without a warrant and you excusing it or at least acting like it's no big deal because it turned out he found drugs in half of them.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:56 pm to roadGator
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Are smart folks known for driving on a suspended license? Do smart folks generally get their licenses suspended?
Why should licenses have expiration dates?
So the cops can frick with people?
If I've been driving for 40 years, why should my license have an expiration date?
And mainly, since the idiots in Jacksonville city govt dropped the charges on the headlights, it's legally a moot point.
Why are you defending a cop who falsifies police reports?
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:56 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
He was a good boy.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:59 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
the question was meant for the guy defending criminal cops
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:59 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
His license expired or was suspended?
There are great reasons for them to expire.
Update pictures. Peoples eye sight change over the years. Etc.
Never once have a I said anything about the actions of the cop.
The sheriff said nothing criminal was done.
The cop may still get suspended, more training, counseling or something else.
I’m willing to wait for the process to play out.
TK Waters is a good dude. He will handle it appropriately.
There are great reasons for them to expire.
Update pictures. Peoples eye sight change over the years. Etc.
Never once have a I said anything about the actions of the cop.
The sheriff said nothing criminal was done.
The cop may still get suspended, more training, counseling or something else.
I’m willing to wait for the process to play out.
TK Waters is a good dude. He will handle it appropriately.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:01 pm to roadGator
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His license expired or was suspended?
I don't know.
Was he stopped because of a suspended license?
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:02 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Why are you defending a cop who falsifies police reports?
This is my thing. Even if everything negative said about the driver is true we have a cop who feels comfortable pulling people over from it up bullshite and then lying about it brazenly. Who then falsifies his report. And finally a cop who apparently is so shitty at his job that he fricked up huge enough that they couldn't even make charges stick against a guy who probably isn't a very good dude. This cop is so fricking incompetent that in a situation between him and the guy who clearly isn't at the top of society the government is going to be forced to pay the civilian due to the police officers incompetence
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:03 pm to roadGator
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roadGator
I thought you were a conservative. Why are you defending tyranical govt?
The sheriff is a lying POS. I saw his presser.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:04 pm to idlewatcher
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This isn’t a good hill to die on situation IMO. Both sides share blame.
One side is gonna get paid bigly!
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:05 pm to roadGator
quote:irrelevant because he shouldn't have been pulled over
His license expired or was suspended
quote:which is fricking weird
Never once have a I said anything about the actions of the cop.
quote:it already has and the government lost.
I’m willing to wait for the process to play out
quote:actually he did no such thing. He did with the police always fricking do. Investigated themselves and found that they didn't do anything wrong. Made excuses. And all he did was increase the likelihood that this shitty police officer will be even shittier in the future.
TK Waters is a good dude. He will handle it appropriately.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:07 pm to roadGator
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The cop may still get suspended, more training, counseling or something else.
So a cop who beats the shite out of another human being "needs more training"?
His fellow cops are holding the guy, so he's defenseless, so the cap can beat the shite out of him?
The cop "needs more training" because of that?
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