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re: Ivanka pushing bipartisan paid family leave legislation
Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:45 pm to novabill
Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:45 pm to novabill
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Adjust pay. Lower salary and pay performance bonuses
Out of curiosity, how often do companies lower salaries for employees? I understand that people will sometimes have demotions and loss of responsibilities, but I have hardly ever heard of someone getting a salary reduction to do the same job.
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:45 pm to TeLeFaWx
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This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:50 pm to AggieHank86
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Horde: uuuuuuuhhhhh (heads explode)
Obvious you didn’t even read the thread. Multiple posters were against it with more upvotes than downvotes
You are consistently dishonest. It’s impressive.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:52 pm to TejasHorn
It’s a great program especially for mothers who oftentimes can’t go back to work. Family loses income and mother might even have to go part time back to work. This is as big of a gender equality bill and closing of wage gab discrepancy bill as I’ve seen.
This has done wonders in France
This has done wonders in France
Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:55 pm to geauxtigersgirl
A lot of professions are already generous with paid leave. They have to be because their competitors are.
Anyway, this isn't small government conservatism. We're not Europe. Social democratic measures that worked in Europe for some period of time will present massive problems here for the same reasons they're fledgling there - the presence of, or an influx of, takers.
In a community with everyone pulling in the same direction and valuing the family unit and the need to accommodate those people in the workforce, it'd be fine. We're not that. We're 330 million people with less and less in common and with half of us becoming convinced that we're entitled to what the other half owns.
Anyway, this isn't small government conservatism. We're not Europe. Social democratic measures that worked in Europe for some period of time will present massive problems here for the same reasons they're fledgling there - the presence of, or an influx of, takers.
In a community with everyone pulling in the same direction and valuing the family unit and the need to accommodate those people in the workforce, it'd be fine. We're not that. We're 330 million people with less and less in common and with half of us becoming convinced that we're entitled to what the other half owns.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:58 pm to Pettifogger
Good for birth rate
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:06 pm to TejasHorn
horseshite policy. If your job offers it, good for you. If it doesn't, find one that does. Why are people so happy to use the largest monopoly of force to force business owners to pay for people not working? Completely up to the businesses, not government.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:24 pm to Drunken Crawfish
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As someone who is going to have kids in the next 3-5 years, I am pretty pumped about this and will take full advantage. But if I was a business owner, I would be livid.
Before you get too "pumped" and understand the owner being "livid", remember this...
The owner isn't going to pay for it at the expense of profit and company health. They may not be able to make a quick change, but a change will be made. Two of the options I see:
1) increase cost to customer / client to offset the greater expense. This is not likely in some / most markets due to staying competitive.
2) not give wage increases (or lowering of potential bonuses) to offset the increase markup needed to offset the greater expense. This helps keep competitive pricing. This also effects you, the "pumped". Now you may not see this (or at least not all at once) but keep in mind it will affect you.
I'm not saying I am for or against this legislation, I'm just saying everyone gets too short-sighted with stuff like this and think it doesn't effect them.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:26 pm to 225bred
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A. Who pays for it?
It's weird that something as important as family Dynamics and mothers bonding with their child are only okay with you guys in theory but when it actually comes to paying for it as a community, you suddenly find a reason why you don't like it. If only you had those same instincts when it came to a giant border wall, war in the Middle East, throwing money at the military industrial complex.
Its like you don't want to be retarded but you just can't help it at the last second
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:27 pm to Lima Whiskey
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She’s pushing legislation that is antithetical to conservatives.
Why do people like her?
i know why i like her
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:29 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
quote:FMLA is a mess and this will be a shitshow.
FMLA already gets plenty of abuse without attaching monetary payoff to it.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:30 pm to whowat
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What kind of beta bitch shite is this? We don't have royalty, ****.
did you really **** your own post?
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:31 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:Mothers aren't bonding with their children now?
It's weird that something as important as family Dynamics and mothers bonding with their child are only okay with you guys in theory but when it actually comes to paying for it as a community,
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:35 pm to Pettifogger
You’re presence is sorely missed on this board.
Oh and I finally pulled the trigger and moved to Atlanta last month. Let me know when you wanna get a beer.
Oh and I finally pulled the trigger and moved to Atlanta last month. Let me know when you wanna get a beer.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:37 pm to PickupAutist
quote:You're okay forcing companies to hand out free shite so people will vote for the republicans? Not me.
This is the sort of legislation that will get swing voters to our side.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:53 pm to Jake88
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Mothers aren't bonding with their children now?
They are but wouldn't it be okay to allow the mother to recover while the bonding happened even more? A lot of civilized countries do that
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:59 pm to Ebbandflow
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They are but wouldn't it be okay to allow the mother to recover while the bonding happened even more?
[/quote]If a company wants to do that voluntarily, sure. Force them by the power of the federal government, no.
quote:Those civilized countries traditionally have weaker economies than the US.
A lot of civilized countries do that
Posted on 2/13/19 at 6:14 pm to Jake88
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If a company wants to do that voluntarily, sure. Force them by the power of the federal government, no.
You got to pay to play. You want to set up shop and make money in the United States then you should pay up a little bit kick back in your fair share to society. If Society wants a healthier family nucleus then that's what they're going to have to give up.
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Those civilized countries traditionally have weaker economies than the US.
Yeah the swedes are really hurting
Posted on 2/13/19 at 6:19 pm to Ebbandflow
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Yeah the swedes are really hurting
Yeah Sweden which is a shithole now is a great comparison to the US
Posted on 2/13/19 at 6:24 pm to bmy
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Respect for a married woman that's loyal to her husband and a good daughter that the President loves very much.
Respect is earned. She's pushing leftist legislation. She's a leftist. That means she doesn't get respect.
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did you really **** your own post?
If by "****" you mean "typed something that is apparently censored on this board"...
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