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re: It's pretty obvious the Left have declared Jihad on the unborn.....

Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by westide
Bamala
Member since Sep 2014
2882 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:39 pm to
The left are a bunch of murderous basturds.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Don't dodge


I have literally spelled out my position on this all the while being called a 'Liberal' which is so laughable.

I don't care what your position is on this. I am just trying to explain to you in a nice way that what you are advocating for is only going to help Democrats and their agenda. It sounds like you are fine with more Democrats being in the House and Senate. It sounds like you are ok with the government taking even more of your money to pay for all these future Democrats to support them until they are 18 then they will turn around and vote for those same Democrats.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:45 pm to
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I have literally spelled out my position on this all the while being called a 'Liberal' which is so laughable.

OK. I grant that you are not asserting a liberal view and was incorrect on that.

My questions are valid. Take a moment to answer them.
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I don't care what your position is on this. I am just trying to explain to you in a nice way that what you are advocating for is only going to help Democrats and their agenda.
Well, fortunately, as political as I am, I do not let my morality be dictated by what will help me win politically or not.

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It sounds like you are fine with more Democrats being in the House and Senate. It sounds like you are ok with the government taking even more of your money to pay for all these future Democrats to support them until they are 18 then they will turn around and vote for those same Democrats.
See above
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:47 pm to
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It sounds like you are ok with the government taking even more of your money to pay for all these future Democrats to support them until they are 18 then they will turn around and vote for those same Democrats.
Joke's on you, Shorty and I are retiring in New Zealand
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Well, fortunately, as political as I am, I do not let my morality be dictated by what will help me win politically or not.


Then if this were to happen you would lose the right to complain. You realize that? When Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, etc go Blue you have to sit there and take it because this is what you wanted. By god you wanted these kids born and you will have to deal with the repercussions. You can't come in after the fact and start telling them to get jobs, complain about the welfare state, complain about entitlements, complain about the social programs, etc. It doesn't work like that.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:54 pm to
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Then if this were to happen you would lose the right to complain. You realize that?
well. That's silly. If someone proposed taking away black's right to vote, it would quite obviously help ensure political victory going forward, but I'm not gonna support it!

Frankly, that's been how liberals approach politics lately and I'm not a fan.

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By god you wanted these kids born and you will have to deal with the repercussions. You can't come in after the fact and start telling them to get jobs, complain about the welfare state, complain about entitlements, complain about the social programs, etc. It doesn't work like that.
See above.

Using your logic, there's a whole host of really nasty shite I should willingly get on board with because it would improve the likelihood of my side winning in the future politically.

That's a very poor road to go down
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:07 pm to
Same as it ever was

Ventre sa mere.

Long been contentious.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:23 pm to
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If you are against Welfare and Social Safety net expansion then yes that is the answer.

Well, at least you agreed that it's murder. Baby steps
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46150 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:30 pm to
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It's pretty obvious the Left have declared Jihad on the unborn.....


I agree. I feel the Left has moved away from abortion should be an option to abortion is a wonderful thing. It has become something they celebrate.



The Prog/Dim leftists celebrate a lot of abhorrent behavior, mere acceptance was not sufficient...., abhorrent behavior must be embraced, celebrated and advocated.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:30 pm to
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So, from your perspective, the welfare state should grow...........forever.


Who said anything about forever? But clearly we've got room and funds to improve the lives of the least of us.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146906 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14214 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:00 pm to
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The Left are now promoting post-birth infanticide
You put your ignorance on display yet again.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:29 pm to
Nope, the Left supports letting babies who survive abortions die and that, you ignorant slut,is called infanticide.......now, make my damn sammich, little girl.....
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15101 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:37 pm to
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It's pretty obvious the Left have declared Jihad on the unborn.....



They have and they have an almost cult like religious zeal about it. They are sick man!
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71151 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:56 pm to
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Not somehow - you're directly trying to harm children.


Nobody except you is trying yo harm children. You want them killed even after birth. You want them denied medical treatment (like in the NHS controversies). You support Obamacare and oppose fixing the infamous glitch that punishes women and children for being part of a two-parent household.

The "cuts" made to food stamps and the Medicaid expansion are for able bodied, childless adults.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 9:22 am to
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Jake_LaMotta


You are so pathetic.

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 9:41 am to
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You want them killed even after birth.


Of course not - what crazy person lied to you and told you that?!

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You want them denied medical treatment


Yeah, the ACA was all about denying medical treatment.

Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 9:46 am to
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Of course not - what crazy person lied to you and told you that?!



At least we agree that Governor Northam is, in addition to being a nasty individual, a crazy person.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14214 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:09 pm to
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the Left supports letting babies who survive abortions die
You decided to double down on showing your stupidity. Good call. What makes you think that is true. Talk radio or Hannity?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14214 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:31 pm to
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At least we agree that Governor Northam is, in addition to being a nasty individual, a crazy person.
If you would have read the entirety of Northam's comments you would know that isn't true -- that's just what Trump and his minions lied to the public about.

Northam's comments were made in the context of a child that is not viable after birth. Even Dr./poli-board poster NC_Tigah admitted that the circumstance that Northam was addressing and the treatment he was discussing for a non-viable baby was legal and appropriate in all 50 states.

Northam is a pediatric neurologist. Accusing him of advocating that a viable baby be allowed to die is ignorant.
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