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re: Israel killed 22 women/kids yesterday in Gaza/Lebanon bombings

Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:47 am to
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:47 am to
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They allowed Hamas to slaughter their own citizens


I've seen this before and spent some time looking it up.

My conclusion was that Hamas still chose to pull the trigger, no matter who put the loaded gun in their hands.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:47 am to
People don’t understand, this genocide is not that bad. Mao and Pol Pot were much worse by genocide standards.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:47 am to
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Yet not a peep out of you when Grant was lobbing mortars on the innocent women and children in Vicksburg.



wtf
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:49 am to
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So... war is... war?

No you stupid bitch
Posted by SelaTiger
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:49 am to
Yeah I agree, there are no good guys. But would you be ok with America allowing the slaughter of 1200, mostly civilians in order to justify a war of our own? This is what Charlie Kirk was saying just before he died. You ok with it?
This post was edited on 9/22/25 at 11:51 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:50 am to
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No one should be ok with this.
Dumb.
The DVs are d/t your insinuation that women and children are being targeted, and are not being used as human shields. Both are absurd conclusions. Add mine to your DV collection.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:50 am to
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Because terrorists don't care about their women and children and rely on the civilized world to not take them out as collateral damage when hunting the terrorists.

Seems Israel dgaf anymore and is doing "the needful".


ethnically cleansing, as charlie kirk said.
Posted by SelaTiger
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:51 am to
The Israel cocksuckers in here DGAF.
This post was edited on 9/22/25 at 11:52 am
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:52 am to
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And before any of you Israel supporters denies it, there are IDF soldiers who testified that they were given stand down orders. Netanyahu is Satan himself.



netanyahu funding hamas 30 million a month too.

but no one wants to acknowledge that
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:52 am to
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No you stupid bitch


Wow.

That's a little unhinged.

Especially considering you are wrong.

War is about destroying your enemy.

Israel AND Hamas understand this, it's a shame that your own lack of clear understanding makes you emotionally unstable.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:54 am to
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Yeah I agree, there are no good guys. But would you be ok with America allowing the slaughter of 1200, mostly civilians in order to justify a war of our own? This is what Charlie Kirk was saying just before he died. You ok with it?


No, I wouldn't.

Some say that was the case for 9/11.

The idea of it makes me sick- but in the end, the terrorists of both situations made their ultimate decision.

I am not an Israel First person at all... just responding within this rage bait thread.
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:55 am to
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Hamas could have ended the war over a year ago. Agree to disarm and not have a function in the governance of Gaza. QED. Any number of orgs could take over, but Hamas refuses those two key points. So the IDF keeps killing people, including those used as human shields.


And they sure suck at "ethnic cleansing" considering 20% of the population of Israel is Arab. And the fact that there are Arabs on their Supreme Court and in their legislature.

But don't let any of that get in the way of your Jew hate disguised as handwringing over Israel. And happy Rosh Hashanah, my family will be enjoying a nice cinnamon babka, among other things, with smiles on our faces.
This post was edited on 9/22/25 at 11:56 am
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:55 am to
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War is about destroying your enemy.



is war about funding your enemy?

quote:

Prior Israeli strategy and rationale: For years, under the leadership of former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel enabled Qatar to transfer millions of dollars in cash to Hamas in Gaza.
The money trail: A May 2024 report from Ynetnews revealed a 2018 letter from Netanyahu to Qatar requesting $30 million per month for Hamas, to be delivered in cash.
Strategic motive: This policy was reportedly a strategy to "buy quiet" and to keep the Palestinians divided by propping up Hamas as a political rival to the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.
"Buying quiet": One Israeli ex-spy chief told the BBC that while the Qatari money was intended for civilian salaries and aid, it likely also freed up other Hamas funds for its military wing.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:55 am to
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ethnically cleansing, as charlie kirk said.


Link?

Also, CK isn't my God or anything- so it doesn’t change my view if he DID say it.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:57 am to
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:57 am to
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insinuation that women and children are being targeted, and are not being used as human shields

They are being targeted
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:57 am to
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is war about funding your enemy?


Not my war. I don't care.

As someone else stated, there's no "good guys" in this. With that, I can agree.
Posted by LemmyLives
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:58 am to
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is war about funding your enemy?


quote:

The Israeli government has transferred hundreds of millions of shekels to fund the new humanitarian aid mechanism in the Gaza Strip, Kan news reported Wednesday, contradicting government officials who have insisted that Israel has no part in its funding.

According to the report, the government approved the transfer of NIS 700 million (some $280 million) last month to an unclear source, identified by the government only as “the defense establishment.”

Citing unnamed officials, Kan reported that the money was being used to fund the new aid mechanism, run by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, and that the decision to transfer the funds was made under the radar in an attempt to keep the public from finding out — ostensibly since doing so would be highly unpopular with the government’s hard-right base.


So, do you want humanitarian aid delivered to that cesspool or not? Or does that blow a hole in your narrative that Israel wants innocents to suffer? Or you want Hamas back in charge of the aid distribution? Which is it, simpleton?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:58 am to
your link is paywalled... was it CK?
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 11:59 am to
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so it doesn’t change my view if he DID say it.


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Days later, during an October 12, 2023, appearance on the Patrick Bet David Podcast, Kirk questioned how Israel's vaunted security failed so catastrophically.

"I've been to Israel many times; the whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe.

"I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go ten feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier. The whole country is surveilled. Let me just go through this. We don't talk about Israeli politics very often and most Americans don't know this. In the last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.

"I'm not willing to go so far to say Netanyahu knew, or there was intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand-down order? Was there a stand-down order?

"Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel is the size of New Jersey, when I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it was 45 minutes. For six hours, they're live-streaming the killing of Jews. Did somebody in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate non-conspiracy question.

"The whole country is the IDF, and you're trying to tell me that they're going to concerts and kibbutzim and schools for six hours?"

"Or maybe, Patrick, maybe they might have gotten a tip, they might've gotten whispers, but no one thought it would be 1,200 Jews dead. That's a potential, right, because here's the essence of it. The essence is this. This is the closest thing to the Holocaust that any of us have lived through. But the fact is now Bibi and the Israeli hard-right government has a mandate.

"I've got to be careful the way I say this, they're going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. And I don't use that term lightly, okay? They're talking about basically removing 2.5 million people from there. And honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge. They do. This idea that they need to have a truce or a peace treaty, that's morally crap after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets. But there are some serious questions here, Patrick. And let me tell you, my pattern recognition over the last five years has become pretty sharp. COVID, Maui fires, Epstein. When I see a story and it doesn't click, our guts are usually right."


LINK
This post was edited on 9/22/25 at 12:00 pm
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