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Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:27 am to IvoryBillMatt
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I'll bite. How is Iran a threat to the United States?
Nah, not a threat.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:34 am to idlewatcher
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Nah, not a threat.
From which part of the United States was that photo taken?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:38 am to idlewatcher
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Nah, not a threat.
Iranians boarding American vessels in international water WOULD be a threat to national security. What are the circumstances of that photo? Thanks
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:46 am to 632627
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Just because Iran isn't a threat to storm our beaches doesn't mean they aren't a threat to national secur
I’d argue that they are an unequivocal threat to our national security given that they are openly targeting the president of the United States for assassination and according to many sources have actual hit teams in our country waiting for a chance to strike.
We’ve been at war with Iran via proxies on and off since gulf war 2. They sponsor Islamic insurgents throughout the ME and as long as we’re involved in ME politics will have them as a strategic opponent absent regime change.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:51 am to tide06
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StopAntisemitism is deeply troubled by Tulsi Gabbard's pick for Deputy Director of National Intelligence, Daniel Davis. His record is alarming:
- dismisses Iran as a threat to Israel or America, despite Iran openly vowing to destroy both Israel & America & being the #1 state sponsor of terrorism
- opposed military action to stop Iran’s nuclear program while showing support for the Iran Deal
- accused Israel of “ethnic cleansing” in Gaza & called it a “prison”
- seemed to justify the 10/7 massacre, blaming Israel’s “repression” of Palestinians for decades
- shares inflated Gaza death tolls, even exceeding Hamas propaganda
- claimed Israel is “playing the U.S. like a cheap fiddle”
- hostile to Israel’s fight against Hezbollah
- opposed the assasination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh
- openly defended Houthi terrorists despite their ongoing terror attacks against Israelis & Americans
- surrounds himself with deeply antisemitic peers
Outside the last item (which would itself need more evidence), none of that is “anti-semitism”.
As another thread has said, criticizing the state of Israel is not “anti-semitism”, and you water down the idea by claiming that it is.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:01 am to Ag Zwin
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As another thread has said, criticizing the state of Israel is not “anti-semitism”, and you water down the idea by claiming that it is.
We need to protect Jews as we protect any other group from violence as we were beginning to see on some college campuses and big cities.
The issue as I see it is that particular phrase has begun to be used as air cover to drown out legitimate conversations some groups don’t want to have just as the term racist was used to usher in the DEI movement in the last 10 years or so.
I don’t see any argument that it isn’t just another form of intersectional politics.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:05 am to tide06
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I’d argue that they are an unequivocal threat to our national security given that they are openly targeting the president of the United States for assassination and according to many sources have actual hit teams in our country waiting for a chance to strike.
Can't speak for others, but these assertions without any proof or attribution aren't persuasive to me. I understand that sources and methods can't be revealed. MAYBE there are such hit teams, but if they can't be more effective than Crooks or Rouse, are they to be feared?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:07 am to tide06
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They sponsor Islamic insurgents throughout the ME and as long as we’re involved in ME politics will have them as a strategic opponent absent regime change.
Let's get out of ME politics. Problem solved. Next.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:11 am to tide06
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The issue as I see it is that particular phrase has begun to be used as air cover to drown out legitimate conversations some groups don’t want to have just as the term racist was used to usher in the DEI movement in the last 10 years or so.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:13 am to IvoryBillMatt
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How is Iran a threat to the United States?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:13 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Can't speak for others, but these assertions without any proof or attribution aren't persuasive to me
You’re obviously free to believe whatever you like, but before you finalize your thoughts you might want to watch this video the Ayatollah of Iran put out on his own social media feeds:
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Matt Gaetz was Trumps original pick for AG. He was also on the armed services committee.
He along with others state that they were briefed that there are at least 5 foreign state sponsored assassination teams on US soil as of October of last year that they’re aware of and that Iran was one of the nations mentioned.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 10:14 am
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:16 am to tide06
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I’d argue that they are an unequivocal threat to our national security given that they are openly targeting the president of the United States for assassination and according to many sources have actual hit teams in our country waiting for a chance to strike.
Because of the actions of the Secret Service, I don't believe this...and based on the "protection" afforded by the Secret Service at Butler, I don't think they believe it either.
If it literally weren't a matter of life and death, it would be humorous to read articles such as this from the AP just after Butler:
WASHINGTON (AP) — A threat on Donald Trump’s life from Iran prompted additional security in the days before Saturday’s campaign rally, but it was unrelated to the assassination attempt on the Republican presidential nominee, two U.S. officials said Tuesday, as law enforcement warned of the potential for more violence inspired by the shooting.
National Security Council spokesperson Adrienne Watson said officials have been tracking Iranian threats against Trump administration officials for years, dating back to the last administration. Trump ordered the 2020 killing of Qassem Soleimani, who led the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force.
“These threats arise from Iran’s desire to seek revenge for the killing of Qassem Soleimani. We consider this a national and homeland security matter of the highest priority,” Watson said.
The U.S. Secret Service and the Trump campaign were made aware of the latest threat, prompting a surge in resources and assets, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence matters.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:18 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Let's get out of ME politics. Problem solved. Next.
I agree in principle, but the macro strategic issue that presents is that China can fill that void and their status globally would change completely with control over the oil fields.
We have to make sure we have a stable and independent region there in the era of petroleum or there will be hell to pay with China within a generation.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:26 am to tide06
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He along with others state that they were briefed that there are at least 5 foreign state sponsored assassination teams on US soil as of October of last year that they’re aware of and that Iran was one of the nations mentioned.
Thanks Tide for the discussion and I watched the video (which looks like it was for domestic, Iranian consumption). I don't doubt that Gaetz was so briefed, I just doubt the veracity of the briefing.
We're supposed to believe that "we" know of these assassination teams, but haven't taken them out? Also, the attempts on Trump showed how easy it is to get close to him...even by rank amateurs. Imagine how easy it would be for well-trained and supported professionals???
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:36 am to IvoryBillMatt
I don’t understand the logic on this.
You have the leader of Iran saying they would like to kill Trump via assassination and multiple government leaks indicating they’re actively trying to do so, why should we logically not assume they are a threat to Trump due to politics and retaliation for Qasem Soleimani?
All the available evidence points in that direction and the only reason it hasn’t happened based on what we “know” is that they either haven’t figured out how to do it yet or fear the “dead man switch” Trump talked about having put in place with Vance where it would trigger an immediate decapitation strike against their government and full scale war if they do so?
You have the leader of Iran saying they would like to kill Trump via assassination and multiple government leaks indicating they’re actively trying to do so, why should we logically not assume they are a threat to Trump due to politics and retaliation for Qasem Soleimani?
All the available evidence points in that direction and the only reason it hasn’t happened based on what we “know” is that they either haven’t figured out how to do it yet or fear the “dead man switch” Trump talked about having put in place with Vance where it would trigger an immediate decapitation strike against their government and full scale war if they do so?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:55 am to K9
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His record is alarming:
- dismisses Iran as a threat to Israel or America, despite Iran openly vowing to destroy both Israel & America & being the #1 state sponsor of terrorism
- opposed military action to stop Iran’s nuclear program while showing support for the Iran Deal
- accused Israel of “ethnic cleansing” in Gaza & called it a “prison”
- seemed to justify the 10/7 massacre, blaming Israel’s “repression” of Palestinians for decades
- shares inflated Gaza death tolls, even exceeding Hamas propaganda - claimed Israel is “playing the U.S. like a cheap fiddle”
- hostile to Israel’s fight against Hezbollah
- opposed the assasination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh - openly defended Houthi terrorists despite their ongoing terror attacks against Israelis & Americans - surrounds himself with deeply antisemitic peers
Did you even bother to read this?
This dude sounds like some Biden Admin Tranny General
How the frick was he even in consideration for DNI DD?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:58 am to tide06
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All the available evidence points in that direction
We just disagree on the state of the evidence. I no more believe that Iran is taking steps to assassinate Trump than I believe that Trump will take Greenland "one way or the other." I think the Iranians are blustering to satisfy their own populace (of course, I could be wrong).
As for the "foreign hit teams," that COULD be true or it could be contrived to justify bigger defense and security expenditures and powers.
My skepticism of "our" intelligence community has been permanently triggered by "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq." Do you think there WERE weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and we just didn't find them?
After Iraq, I always ask, "is this just intelligence crafted to justify some policy?" Of course, as a private citizen in a country without an independent press, I have no way of knowing.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:00 am to K9
These "frick da Joos" threads are seeming more and more like Chinese propaganda everyday.
Some butt hurt bitch starts a thread copy pasta a tweet from a Jew Hater on X or like this OP didn't even bother to read the tweet he was posting, just included the magic words "frick da Joos" in his OP.
Then a stream of low info, lazy, maybe bots, jump in and hit their "frick da Joos" insta-reply without even bothering to read the source and applying a sliver of rational thought.
Then we have another 3 page "frick da Joos" thread to go along with the other 30 "frick da Joos" threads started here daily.
Can we just get a Sticky "frick da Joos " Thread to save space and time?
Some butt hurt bitch starts a thread copy pasta a tweet from a Jew Hater on X or like this OP didn't even bother to read the tweet he was posting, just included the magic words "frick da Joos" in his OP.
Then a stream of low info, lazy, maybe bots, jump in and hit their "frick da Joos" insta-reply without even bothering to read the source and applying a sliver of rational thought.
Then we have another 3 page "frick da Joos" thread to go along with the other 30 "frick da Joos" threads started here daily.
Can we just get a Sticky "frick da Joos " Thread to save space and time?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:01 am to Hodag
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His record is alarming:
That's an interested party's summary of his record. I would like to see the evidence that it IS his record.
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