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Is wanting someone to change incongruous with love? Can wanting change and love coexists?

Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:56 am
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17459 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:56 am


I guess you can’t expect or want someone to change who is an alcoholic or drug addict? I guess you can’t want someone to not be abusive?

Just curious how this works?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
9362 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:58 am to
Cartoon wishes me to love sheep...
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
14262 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:03 am to
Whatever happened to the old "Come as you are, leave different?"

Satan was called "the Lord of Light" for a reason, and the Antichrist will not come as opposition, but rather a "more palatable alternative" than to sacrifice our personal desires.
Posted by Vandergriff
Member since Nov 2020
1670 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:04 am to
Real love is about repentance.

Worldly love is about acceptance.

And we all have a choice.



Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
61046 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:07 am to
You can love someone without accepting everything about them. We all have faults and such warm/fuzzy statements like that in the X post gloss over them in order to position themselves as "holier than thou".

What people are really saying when they get into absolutist stances like that are "Your love for me shouldn't require me to change." It's narcissism disguised as the faux morality of virtue signaling.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64491 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:14 am to
Is all love unconditional?

I think we love our families unconditionally. But does that extend to the warm/fuzzy love we “have” for our neighbors? Probably not.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
4423 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:16 am to
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"Your love for me shouldn't require me to change." It's narcissism disguised as the faux morality of virtue signaling.

Correct. This doesn’t even touch the other side of the equation. If you expect me to accept you for everything good and bad that you are even if I don’t like it…then you’re expecting ME to change.

Which according to this stupid shite is not love.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17459 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:56 am to
I wonder if the rainbow mafia extend that same love and acceptance to Israel?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47922 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:05 am to
Jesus said to repent and sin no longer. He said to be perfect as our Father in Heaven is perfect. He said that you will know a tree by its fruits and that a dead tree will be cut off and burned.

God loves us so much that He wants us to change and be like Him, and He is the one who creates that change in us if we belong to Him by faith in Jesus.

Nowhere does the Bible indicate that it is loving to let a sinner remain in his sin, but we are told to judge ourselves and then to correct others with gentleness and love.

This notion that love does not demand change is not biblical, and it isn’t even commonsensical: we don’t tell the thief to keep stealing or the rapist to keep raping. We discipline our children when they act wrongly to train them to act rightly.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
59130 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:08 am to
quote:

I guess you can’t expect or want someone to change who is an alcoholic or drug addict? I guess you can’t want someone to not be abusive?

It’s embarrassing how easily you skewered his idiotic post.
Posted by Tigersforthee
Member since Dec 2025
1302 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:10 am to
Is that Mohammed? Because if it is somebody is about to get beheaded.
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