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re: Is Vivek Ramaswamy right?

Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by lurking
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:56 pm to
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AlterEd


Aren’t you one of those Q retards? Hopefully we can deport you too.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43138 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:56 pm to
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Exactly. It's fricking stupid.


I mean, you just did it.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23594 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:58 pm to
Though I disagree with Vikek on H-1B visas, I generally find Vivek to be a compelling personality who usually offers some interesting insights on whatever he is discussing.

Yet I quit reading when I saw the term “Groyper” — it is a lazy and useless term used to shut down debate over immigration issues.



This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53796 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:58 pm to
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Many white Americans are beginning to push back against the Cultural Marxists and Democratic Socialist who have convinced a shite ton of minorities they are being oppressed by whitey.


And if they think that the way to go about doing that is by oppressing minorities they're truly fricking stupid.


The Democratic Socialists/Progressives literally control every major institution in the US, from the judiciary, the Bureaucratic State, academia, Hollywood/Pop Culture, most of mass media, Fortune 500 companies......if minorities are truly being oppressed it's the leftists that are doing so.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 9:59 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
14799 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:58 pm to
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Collectivism is a central tenant of Marxism for a reason and should be rejected. Individualism, which means not looking at people as "Jews" or "Muslims" or whatever group identity is the only way.


Would you believe me if I told you that these "groups" weren't pigeonholed NEAR to the extent that they self selected their pigeonholed groups?

Take that fellow, a Somali, that killed that Australian woman many years back... did you know he is in a position of authority and power now AND vows to serve Somalians both here and abroad. Not citizens, not everyone.. but Somalians.

They pigeonhole themselves... I just honor their wishes.

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3136 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:58 pm to
No, what I'm promoting is people to call out the racism wherever they see it to avoid that harder push back from the right that you spoke of in your first paragraph. At some point one side is going to have to say enough is enough and fricking stop it.

And we damn well know it won't be the left that does that.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7882 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:59 pm to
Nobody knows what actual racism is anymore.

It’s nothing more than leverage in an argument to shut down winning points.

Very low on my list of actual concerns. Be “racist”. I don’t care. Just don’t break the law and don’t demand privileges. We can coexist without singing and holding hands.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8763 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:00 pm to
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Our movement is supposed to be about rejecting hate.


I agree with you.

I’ll also say a lot of what you are encountering now is (in my opinion) what has been an inevitable and very predictable reactionary movement spawned by the Left’s sustained and focused efforts to demonize white people and demonize the history of this republic.

So yes, the split is currently occurring within the right side of the American political spectrum but the Left’s radicalization is what ultimately spawned a counter movement that’s every bit as unwilling to compromise.

Whether it’s right or wrong it was always ultimately inevitable.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
14799 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:00 pm to
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Actually, I doubt they even read the fricking article.


I responded to the prompt given by the OP.

It was a very binary prompt.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3136 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:00 pm to
That's just a whataboutism.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43138 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:01 pm to
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No, what I'm promoting is people to call out the racism wherever they see it to avoid that harder push back from the right that you spoke of in your first paragraph. At some point one side is going to have to say enough is enough and fricking stop it.


You call a white kid who is now 18, who spent his entire life being told he was privileged, had to score higher and get better grades than most, simply to get into a better college, then he graduates, and is unable to find a job that he is qualified for because DEI, can't get a good paying job, can't get a home, can't start a family...

Call him a racist after all that shite.

OR

Don't take his life experience seriously and still call him racist.

You will lose him forever.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3136 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:02 pm to
Of course. It is a byproduct of the bullshite the left has been up to. But I'm not interested in whataboutisms. They get us nowhere.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23594 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:02 pm to
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In general the ideals that are "American" are mostly held by white people.


As is much of Western Intellectual history. And it is not racist to point out that historical reality.

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
14799 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:03 pm to
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And if they think that the way to go about doing that is by oppressing minorities they're truly fricking stupid.


What?

Oppressing minorities?

Oh.. do you mean not accepting every illegal that crosses the border?

Or do you mean dismantling DEI?

Who is oppressing minorities and HOW? Be specific.

Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16350 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:05 pm to
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Is being American a white-centric identity?


Originally it was, but the cat is out of the bag and we are too far removed from those that struggled, fought and died for American independence. It is now
obtained cheaply and esteemed lightly by whites, browns and blacks alike.

I'll choose those that share my ideals over those that share my race 10 times out of 10.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3136 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:05 pm to
That's funny because the earliest cosmology in the world came from India. Along with some of the grandest architecture the world has ever seen. What your meme really means is that the western man was good at war and slaughtered many millions of people to usurp their power and hold it with an iron fist.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43138 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:06 pm to
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I'll choose those that share my ideals over those that share my race 10 times out of 10.


Agreed and perfectly said.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
14799 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:07 pm to
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As is much of Western Intellectual history. And it is not racist to point out that historical reality.


I have never seen that quote before... it definitely resonates.
Posted by Apache
San Diego
Member since Dec 2013
2749 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:08 pm to
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Deport him? Why? And to where?

Yes. For the frick of it. To Umzumbe Africa.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43138 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:09 pm to
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Yes. For the frick of it. To Guam.


That's not racist! That's just fricking funny.
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