re: Is this all leading to free public college?

I don't know why there isn't a free University of the United States that is virtual and has video lectures from the best professors around the United States on their area of expertise. Testing would be digital and diplomas would be issued to graduates. Classes could be taken at your convenience by pod cast. Seems like a good thing for our Department of Education to do.

If so then a lot of these build it degrees will disappear to cut costs at colleges

All of this BS is leading to socialism, so in effect.. yes, free education @ the cost of the tax payers.

Of course!

The eduindoctrinated form the dim base.

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Well if you would read my post I said why, try to keep up.

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It doesn't really answer the question.

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Most of it is already paid by pell grants anyways.

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This isn't an argument of merit. It's just "let's keep doing it".

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Would lead to more trade workers...

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Would it? If "trade workers" are needed, valuable, and earn a good living--does it need incentivizing?

The price of education is either worth it or it isn't. No one has ever squared the "it's an investment in the future" vs. "it should be free" for me.

Looks like you won't be the first.

If the government is already paying the majority of community colleges and there is a shortage of trade workers it would make sense for the government to incentivise trade schools/community colleges as 22 other 1st first countries have.

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Would it? If "trade workers" are needed, valuable, and earn a good living--does it need incentivizing?

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Yes as kids are told they need a 4 year degree to suceed and that is not true. Many kids dont know about trades and the great life it can provide.

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If the government is already paying the majority of community colleges

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So if I punch you in the face three times, the fourth time it's a good thing?

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Many kids dont know about trades and the great life it can provide.

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Again, this is either trying to incentivize the ignorant and unmotivated or it's unnecessary. If you have to be told getting a high-paying job is a good thing... something is deeply wrong. And it's not lack of "free" schooling.

Bottom line... if "free" school is a good investment for taxpayers -- it's an even better investment for individuals. They should be more than willing to pay for it.

If I told you... give me $20 and I'll give you back $100... you would not need the government to incentivize that deal. Would you really say: "I'll only do it if the government gives me the $20"?

But thanks for trying.

why wouldn’t they want an extension of public high schools? at least 4 more years of indoctrination for the masses is a liberal wet dream.

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Respect trades, and feel it's a great option for many. Certainly, better than lib arts.

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Except HR is changing the pay grades for Equity purposes. In my company, admin assistants are starting to get pay bumps that are almost at the level of field employees. It's fricking insulting and insane. Also, they are giving new hires equal vacation days to veteran employees to remain competitive in the market.

In addition, healthcare coverage is on a tiered payscale now. Those with non-skilled jobs pay a fraction of the premiums that sales and executives pay. etc...

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just a few of the countries with free college.

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It's not free.

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all these countries have free health care too.

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Also not free.

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they just better than us, is that what it is? they can figure it out but we cant? we too dumb?

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Apparently. One would think those places would be overrun with American migrants since they are so awesome. I bet they have tons of illegal American immigrants... oh wait. They don't.

Perhaps you have some thinking to do?